GSP not eating... help

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GSP not eating... help

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So i have GSP who's not eating and it looks like it's chowing. It doesn't look like it's teeth are to long but I'm not 100% sure on that. It's swimming around just fine. Please Help.
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Re: GSP not eating... help

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Moving to Hospital forum, so you can answer all the Qs above in red.
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Give these a read. I think they'll help you out. And answer the all-important questions in red, of course! :D

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library/feeding/feeding-your-puffers/

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Any chance of a photo, so we can see the mouth? That might help. Also, what do you mean by "chowing" ?
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OK so water parameters i have to get the water tested i don't have a test kit. It's a 10 gal brackish tank with 2 gsp and ghost shrimp (they don't eat them). I feed them 2 times a day flake food or blood worms or sun dried shrimp. I do a 10% water Chang every week. This tank has been set up for about a mouth now. I've had the gsp for 7 mouths now. I cant get a good photo of it yet I'll keep trying on that. The last time i feed it snail there was Trumpet Snails. Thanks
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Well just a couple things .... first of all, on a 10-gallon tank with 2 GSP's in it, you should be changing at least 50% of that water weekly. I would cut out the flake food entirely and feed bloodworms, shrimp and definitely snails, but not the trumpet snails, their shells is too hard and can't actually break a puffer's teeth. Get some pond snails or ramshorn snails, they are good ones.

And really I think a 10-gallon is probably too small for 2 GSP's. You need a much bigger tank if you are wanting to keep them both. So that's something you need to consider.
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Please read the articles I linked you to. They are very important.

You really need a test kit. They are crucial to owning puffers.

What kind of salt are you using to make the water brackish?

Water changes should be done at 50% per week on a puffer tank.

How did you cycle the tank?
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Do you think that it cracked it's teeth and if so how can i fix it?
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Do you mean he his sort of stretching his lips over his teeth? He could have cracked a tooth on the hard shells of the mts - prob not alot you can do - would have to anaesthetise him to look & maybe trim any sharp edge. Could have a piece of food stuck?
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How would i go about that?
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I'd suggest getting someone to help you that has a little experience trimming puffer teeth, they would better know what to look for and help.
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Thanks for every-ones help but he didn't make it.
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Oh I'm so sorry to hear that! You have my sincere condolences. Your poor puffer! :(
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So sorry. I wonder what the problem was.
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Sorry to hear that.Maybe he starved and the nitrate level was really high with 2 gsp in a tiny (semi) un cylced tank
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