Bollo my SAP is breathing buy not moving!

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Bollo my SAP is breathing buy not moving!

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Hey Guys

II've had to move all my fish to a 30l as I stupidly forgot to turn the heater off and it blew up

They where all fine at first but I just noticed a couple of the fish at the surface breathing heavily

The 30l has a filter with a spray stick that's been blowing/bubble/oxygen into it which I thought would be enough. I've now added the long bubble spray thing that sits at the bottom of the large tank to the 30l

I've just found Bollo my SAP laying on the plants at the top of the tank right at the water surface, he's breathing but not moving!

There's def something wrong with him as he let me touch him, I moved him so his head wasn't out of the water. His little fins on his sides near his gills are still moving

I pushed him gently and he was floating round with out trying to correct himself at first but then he riggled a little and is now resting on a plant

He doesn't look good, I take it he's suffering from the shock of the move

The 30l had just had a 90% water change before I moved them all

I would've left them all in the large tank but the heater on the 30l is only a 50w so wouldn't have been able to heat the big tank

Oh he's just gone for a quick swim to one end of the tank and back and is now resting on the plants again, he seems very dosile

He hasn't gone a pale colour, his colours are still very dark

I'm just hoping he survives until tomorrow so I can get him back in the large tank

Is there anything you think I should do?
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It could be stress?
Tired maybe.
Scared.
Keep and eye out
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maybe you could turn up the heat in your house, and put all the fish back in the big tank.
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I think he may've been sleeping because he's swimming round normally now :)
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I took the bubble strip out of the 30l again and 30mins later Bollo was doing the same thing again

The current from the filter was pushing him round and he was'nt trying to correct himself again

My Blue Betta who Bollo nips if he comes within an inch of his head even came over to have a look at Bollo and gave Bollo a nip and then quickly swam away (made me laugh for a sec)

I quickly got the bubble strip out of the big tank and put it back into the 30l, I then cupped Bollo in my hand and fingers and held him over the bubbles for about 15 mins, slowly he started to come to life

His eye's started to react and hw gently started to wiggle so I let him go and he swam to the bottom and layed on the gravel for a couple of minutes

He's now laying on the bubble strip

I cannot believe the oxygen in the water runs out so quickly, the other fish seem ok!
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Just how cold is your place? If the temperature is above 65, it would take a LONG time for the temperature being that low to effect the health of your fish, weeks to months for most common tropical fish.
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Nick wrote:Just how cold is your place? If the temperature is above 65, it would take a LONG time for the temperature being that low to effect the health of your fish, weeks to months for most common tropical fish.
I keep my tank at 80f

when I first got the tank I did the same thing (you'd think I would've learnt the first time), then the temp went down to 50f!

I was worried this would happen again so I put them all in my betta's tank and put the betta in a floating baby box

The temp on the large tank only fell to 70f in the end and I founf 2 tiny baby Guppy's in there in the morning who survived the night

It can get very cold here so I didn't want to take the chance

All the fish are now back in the large rearranged tank and are loving the extra space and new layout, it's really nice to see them wizzing round their new gaff doing loop the loops and playing in the bubble spray :)
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Yay!
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