Somethings wrong with Elvis

[blondenblue]

I must admit that i know the best way should be without chemicals, but like edmlfc1 i have no quarantine tanks large enough for my marine fish to go into and because of my sump i cant just remove the LR and hypo the whole tank, therefore i am using the medication i mentioned earlier, i am also adding garlic to their food.
Spongebob: Yes they can get over it my reticularis and trigger did but i lost a dogface, clown, damsel and copperband butterfly. I think and it is only my personal opinion that sw ich is something that needs to be treated in some way but the question is which way is best!?

Edmlfc1: Please can you keep this updated as i would really like to hear peoples opinions of treatment for this!

[Pufferpunk]

You have got to wonder about "Dad's" advice, if only says to QT for a week...

I highly suggest against a DSB with any creatures that may disturb it like that.

I used Prazi in my discus tank for treating ich in there, it might work in SW too. Also 100ppm vitamin C could help.
http://www.livingreefs.com/forums/saltw ... min-c.html

[blondenblue]

PP who has a DSB? and which creatures im confused??

[t1gerbee]

You have got to wonder about "Dad's" advice, if only says to QT for a week...

i think maybe PP means that quarentining for a week won't cure ich..

I highly suggest against a DSB with any creatures that may disturb it like that.

I have no idea... ? I guess if things distrurb a DSB (deep sand bed) it can release pockets of nasty stuff.. ? PP?

I used Prazi in my discus tank for treating ich in there, it might work in SW too. Also 100ppm vitamin C could help.
http://www.livingreefs.com/forums/saltw ... min-c.html

Would Prazi be reef safe? Or at least live rock safe? Or would it kill all the live rock?

[Sponge bob]

Pufferpunk I mean like not that long. I had fish that had stuff like that but worse. Cleared up in a day. Used Quick Cure and heater, So did my dad. =D

[Pufferpunk]

Pufferpunk I mean like not that long. I had fish that had stuff like that but worse. Cleared up in a day. Used Quick Cure and heater, So did my dad. =D

Ich may appear to be cleared up from the fish's body in 1 week but believe me, it is happily reproducing in the tank to go back & infest the fish again. Read the article on treating ich in our Library, to educate yourself on the lifecycle.

PP who has a DSB? and which creatures im confused??

I added more sand for a deep sand bed

I guess if things distrurb a DSB (deep sand bed) it can release pockets of nasty stuff

Correct!

[Sponge bob]

I read both PufferPunk ;D.
Well I had an Ich like fungus on my otto. We really didn't look into it that much because it was on it's way out. =( Well I hope Elvis and Annabelle..Both Great puffers

[edmlfc1]

So I shouldn't have gone with a dsb? I thought it was good to control the nitrates?
I have been treating the tank with vit. c and I also have some prazipro on hand.

This is what I'm going to do:
Soak his food in prazipro, keep treating the tank with vit c and when the beta glucan get's here I'll soak his food in that too. Does that sound like a plan?

[Sponge bob]

OK...Well I'm more familiar with quick cure then vit. C....but I guess w.e is best and doesn't kill works. And what are you feeding him to soak it in?

[edmlfc1]

I feed him mussels, clams, crabs and shrimp.

[Sponge bob]

Oh..well sounds like a meal fit for a king...Im pooped out of ideas. I just use quick cure

[ryverrat]

If marine ich and freshwater ich are similar, then raising the temp. will help. Like PP said just one week won't cure it. With the freshwater variety it is recommended to reduce the amount of lighting or keep the lights off altogether. Messes with the parasite's reproduction. If you don't have any corals in the tank I would keep the lights out (less stress for the fish too). If you have coralline algae on your LR it will dead but it will eventually grow back (won't affect the nitrifying bacteria). I only got ich in my SAP tank- was due to high nitrates causing stress- parasites are opportunists- and it was treated rather easily with lights off and PraziPro (removed live plants- cleaned with tap water and placed in another tank). Good Luck

[edmlfc1]

High temps won't work on sw ich. The only thing I knew that would is hypo but I don't have a large enough qt tank to do hypo on the main tank.

[Pufferpunk]

If marine ich and freshwater ich are similar, then raising the temp. will help.Well I had an Ich like fungus on my otto.

Ich is not a fungus, it is a parasite.

So I shouldn't have gone with a dsb? I thought it was good to control the nitrates?

It is--for reef tanks where the sand won't be disturbed, not in a tank with predators that disturb the sand like a large puffer will do.

This is what I'm going to do:
Soak his food in prazipro, keep treating the tank with vit c and when the beta glucan get's here I'll soak his food in that too. Does that sound like a plan?

I was using the Prazi for IPs in the discus when I noticed ich on them too (see what happens when I don't QT a perfectly healthy-looking fish? That healthy-looking discus was carrying parasites it could handle that my other fish could not). My discus breeder/friend said to pour the Prazi into the tank to treat the ich & get the temp up to 86. I do not know if this will harm any inverts in your LR or not.

If marine ich and freshwater ich are similar, then raising the temp. will help.

Not at all the same--2 totally different parasites. SW crypt (not ich) does not respond the same to higher temps & with it attacking gills so often, it can kill the fish from lowering O2 in the tank with the higher temps. I have occasionally seen ich spots on fish that went away w/o treatment. Keep an eye on things for now & see if it gets worse. Healthy, vitamin-soaked foods, perfect water quality & vitamin C, might just do the trick.

[Pufferpunk]

I have read that in some cases, garlic has an effect on parasites too.