Huge, sick burrfish @ LFS...HUGE!!
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We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Huge, sick burrfish @ LFS...HUGE!!
Well, at the LFS, they had this burrfish donated to them because the owner didn't know how to medicate him. I'm thinking he's a Chilomycterus reticulatus (Spotfin burrfish) or Chilomycterus affinis (Pacific burrfish). He's probably about 1.5' or so. One of the employees told me he is eating, but he has bad IP. I really want to help this fish, he's very beautiful. They have him in a 300g right now, but they aren't treating him yet. I was going to suggest Flubenol, but I'd like to know what you guys think would be the best way to treat him. I'm very serious about giving advice, because it seems like they're kind of neglecting him :[ Check out the pics and tell me what you think!
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Re: Huge, sick burrfish @ LFS...HUGE!!
Doesn't look like any burrfish I've ever seen. Look up Diodon hystrix in our Pufferpedia.
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Re: Huge, sick burrfish @ LFS...HUGE!!
That is a Diodon hystrix, they don't look very similar to me. Your post wasn't very helpful, I was looking for advice on medicating the fish. Diodon hystrix isn't in the pufferpedia either.
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Re: Huge, sick burrfish @ LFS...HUGE!!
It looks like it has a severe case of internal parasites.
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Re: Huge, sick burrfish @ LFS...HUGE!!
It sure does, I wish somebody knew how to properly treat such a severe case.
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Re: Huge, sick burrfish @ LFS...HUGE!!
A correct does of anti-parasitic agent. I've used Flubenol in the past and it comes in packs large enough to treat massive tanks. You can order iot from a guy called Paul Fox on here.
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Re: Huge, sick burrfish @ LFS...HUGE!!
Awesome! I'll send him a PM after i chat with the LFS. Thanks Hilly :]
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Re: Huge, sick burrfish @ LFS...HUGE!!
No problem, in the meantime just keep feeding the brute, there's not a lot more you can do. Flubenol does seem to have a dramatic effect very quickly though. Paul will give you all the info on it though.
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Re: Huge, sick burrfish @ LFS...HUGE!!
This is a chilomycterus atringa. I have a breeding pair as well as 2 singles.
These are prone to cestodes and respond well to praziquantel as long as the worms have not invaded any internal organs - liver, spleen & kidney.
These are also often infected with mycobacterium and weight loss is a common presentation.
I would definitely deworm and attempt to get eating. Live crabs and frozen crabs as well as urchins are there natural diets and will usually entice the most finicky eater.
These are difficult to keep as well as get eating in a tank.
Best of luck.
These are prone to cestodes and respond well to praziquantel as long as the worms have not invaded any internal organs - liver, spleen & kidney.
These are also often infected with mycobacterium and weight loss is a common presentation.
I would definitely deworm and attempt to get eating. Live crabs and frozen crabs as well as urchins are there natural diets and will usually entice the most finicky eater.
These are difficult to keep as well as get eating in a tank.
Best of luck.
Kelly
Re: Huge, sick burrfish @ LFS...HUGE!!
Thanks PQ. I'll let them know asap. Luckily, he's still eating.
What size tank do they require? He's sharing a 300g with a few other fish atm
What size tank do they require? He's sharing a 300g with a few other fish atm
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Re: Huge, sick burrfish @ LFS...HUGE!!
Have that breeding pair turned out any viable lil puffers, or are the fry simply too small to rear captive?
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