Tank: 20 gallon
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 20 or so
pH: 7.6
Dragon puffer looks like it's shedding white fuzz (pics)
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
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3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
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We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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puffer_puff
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Dragon puffer looks like it's shedding white fuzz (pics)
Does anyone know what is wrong with my dragon puffer? It looks as though it's shedding white fuzz. I put in a stronger light and at first just thought that this was part of its texture. It seems as though there's more of this stuff on it than earlier, though, so I'm doubting it's part of its texture.
Tank: 20 gallon
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 20 or so
pH: 7.6
Tank: 20 gallon
Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 20 or so
pH: 7.6
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Do you mean to add both Pimafix and Melafix, or one or the other? I have both.
Should it be in the quantities specified on the bottle for the size of tank the puffer's in?
Should it be in the quantities specified on the bottle for the size of tank the puffer's in?
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I'd use both. They are compatible with each other.
I find it works best if you add an airstone and raise the temp a few degrees. I also like to alternate dosing days and water change days. Follow the dossage recommendation on the bottles. The next day, do a water change. The next day after that, dose again. Repeat for a week to 10 days.
I find it works best if you add an airstone and raise the temp a few degrees. I also like to alternate dosing days and water change days. Follow the dossage recommendation on the bottles. The next day, do a water change. The next day after that, dose again. Repeat for a week to 10 days.
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I gave the first dose yesterday (of both Melafix and Pimafix).
I don't have an airstone in the tank, but there is a Hydro sponge for additional filtration (in addition to a HOB filter). I hope the reason you said you add the airstone is covered by my having a Hydro sponge.
The temperature is now at 84 degrees.
The suggestion to alternate dosing days and water change days is not compatible with the suggestion to follow the dosage recommendation on the bottle for the reason that the bottle instructions read that the water should be treated daily. I will take it that you mean that the dosage amount should be as on the bottle but the frequency should be every other day. Please let me know if this is not what you meant.
I don't have an airstone in the tank, but there is a Hydro sponge for additional filtration (in addition to a HOB filter). I hope the reason you said you add the airstone is covered by my having a Hydro sponge.
The temperature is now at 84 degrees.
The suggestion to alternate dosing days and water change days is not compatible with the suggestion to follow the dosage recommendation on the bottle for the reason that the bottle instructions read that the water should be treated daily. I will take it that you mean that the dosage amount should be as on the bottle but the frequency should be every other day. Please let me know if this is not what you meant.
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I meant follow the dossage amount from the bottle for how much to use per gallon.
I recommend alternating days with water changes to keep the water prestine and to more closely simulate a flow through system where the water is constantly being removed and replenished. The prestine water quality IMO is just as important as the medication itself.
There are also those who claim that melafix/pimafix may cause breathing problems in weakened fish. I've never experienced this myself or even heard second hand accounts (only ever 3rd or 4th hand), but it's better safe than sorry.
This is also the reason for the air stone. It will increase the amount of oxygen in the water and help to allow other gases to exit the water column. This is important because of the increased temperature which will reduce the amount of oxygen in the water and speed up the metabolism of the bacteria and fish, meaning they will require more oxygen.
The airstone likely won't make or break the treatment, but it will help. If you have strong enough current and surface agitation, it should be fine.
I recommend alternating days with water changes to keep the water prestine and to more closely simulate a flow through system where the water is constantly being removed and replenished. The prestine water quality IMO is just as important as the medication itself.
There are also those who claim that melafix/pimafix may cause breathing problems in weakened fish. I've never experienced this myself or even heard second hand accounts (only ever 3rd or 4th hand), but it's better safe than sorry.
This is also the reason for the air stone. It will increase the amount of oxygen in the water and help to allow other gases to exit the water column. This is important because of the increased temperature which will reduce the amount of oxygen in the water and speed up the metabolism of the bacteria and fish, meaning they will require more oxygen.
The airstone likely won't make or break the treatment, but it will help. If you have strong enough current and surface agitation, it should be fine.
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It's gotten worse. Now it's like a sort of white shedding fungal-type body coat.
I've been using Pimafix and Melafix in combination.
Further suggestions?
I've been using Pimafix and Melafix in combination.
Further suggestions?
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The very tank it's in can be considered a hospital tank, as it's the only animal in it, can't it?
I'll try and find the Maracyn today.
I'll try and find the Maracyn today.
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As long as you keep a close eye on the parameters & realize you may have to recycle (I recommend having Bio-Spira on hand).
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Bio-Spira is not available in Toronto.
I'm assuming just swapping in a filter from another tank would solve the problem of the tank not being cycled. Please do let me know if the matter is more complicated.
I'm assuming just swapping in a filter from another tank would solve the problem of the tank not being cycled. Please do let me know if the matter is more complicated.
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The Melafix and Pimafix seem to be working.
I've also added some salt.
I bought "Maracyn" but have not used it yet (because the Melafix & Pimafix seem to be working). The instruction pamphlet reads that it does not harm the biological filter.
I've also added some salt.
I bought "Maracyn" but have not used it yet (because the Melafix & Pimafix seem to be working). The instruction pamphlet reads that it does not harm the biological filter.
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