Resistant Ich in SAPs?

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Resistant Ich in SAPs?

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My SAPs have come down with Ich (90% certain from a plant introduction, dangitall), and salt/heat treatment hasn't worked. I did 1tsp/gallon and 85 degrees for 4 days, and then upped to 1.5tsp/g for another 10 with no results: they're still flashing and salted-looking. They were looking tremendously stressed even with the addition of an airstone, so I brought the temp back down to 83. The only thing I seem to have achieved is melting most of the plants in my tank. :(

Should I be using more salt? I'm loathe to crank the temperature up again. I also have on hand a couple Ich medications that I've used previously in my cichlid tank, would any be appropriate for puffers? I have malachite green, and 1-chloro-2,2,5,5-tetramethyl-4-imidazolidinone (tetra all-in-one).

Thanks for any help.

The questions:
1) pH-8.0 Ammonia-0 Nitrite-0 Nitrate-5
2) 40 gallons, 3 SAPs, Eheim 250 filter
3) I feed pond snails every other or 3rd day, do 25% water changes 2x/week (I've been doing 25% daily while trying to kick the ich), currently using salt
4) the only change is the plant that I added (and now I've melted the stupid thing as well as infected my fish. ./grump)
5) the tank has been running for about a year, cycled way back with filter media from my guppy tank.
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Re: Resistant Ich in SAPs?

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SAPs are also quite prone to velvet. Are you sure it's not that? Although treatment is the same. Are you doing 890% WC thoroughly vacuuming the substrate every other day?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Re: Resistant Ich in SAPs?

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Gravel vaccuuming religiously, I want these buggers GONE. I haven't seen velvet in person before, but from a googling it looks more like ich to me. I'll see if I can get one of them to be still long enough for a picture.
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