PH-8.0
Ammonia-0
Nitrite-0
Nitrate-10
SG 1.002
20 gallon 2 small cyelon puffers 1 and 1.5" long
Feeding mussel, Mysis, bloodworms, Snails, added Kent Zoecon to food use Prime and stability for water changes.
Just last week started going brackish
Aquarium has been going for a few months and cycled with fishless cyle
Okay so my problem is the bigger puffer is biteing the other smaller one 3 times now but only when they are feeding other than that they avoid eachother. my question being what should i use for the bites aswell as what i should do for the biteing. I love them both and dont wanna see either of them hurt I do have a second 20 gallon and i plan on buying a 75gallon on boxing day maybe bigger depends on what my wife allows. should i seperate them or just maybe seperate them for feeding idk. plz help idk what th
Plz i need some help
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
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4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Plz i need some help
These cute little things could show no aggression to the other and the next min they could chew each other up.. u would never know.. Since u have another 20g on hand, I would say use it.. just remember to split the media over to the other new tank to help with cycling and watch the parameter. Use melafix to treat for the bites.
I do not have any ceylons anymore, one strange way I use to do is I have a long skewer on hand. When they start feeding and if one showed any aggression, I would use it to push him away.. works for me though.. but I think u are better off with separating them!
I do not have any ceylons anymore, one strange way I use to do is I have a long skewer on hand. When they start feeding and if one showed any aggression, I would use it to push him away.. works for me though.. but I think u are better off with separating them!
I am not a Troll, I am just pissed..!
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Re: Plz i need some help
If you have two tanks, definitely separate them - it'll also help with preventing stunting until you get the larger tank.
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Re: Plz i need some help
+1 separate. However putting them back together may prove impossible. The 20g is way too small to keep them both in though
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly
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Re: Plz i need some help
a good idea and quick solution would be shipping one to me 
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Cheeto
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Re: Plz i need some help
okay so 500$ later i have a 75 gallon cycleing : ) go creditcards i dont wanna seperate them i know a 75 will still be to small for them later on but i plan on at least a 120gallon. 75 was the biggest i could afford at the moment.
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Cheeto
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Re: Plz i need some help
oh and Dr.Kenn if u are intrested in one of them we could talk more. if i cant provide a great home for the 2 and it getting rid of one so they can both be happy and healthy i would have no problem doing it.
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Re: Plz i need some help
WOW i have a 65 i got for $40 for the glass, $20 for the light, $20 for the filter, and built a stand for $30. yours must be GRAVY! and yeah if you decide you dont want one throw me a pm and we'll work something out.
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Re: Plz i need some help
things in alberta are not cheap. i live in an appartment so i dont have the means to build a stand or i would have and i had a 90 gallon but umm well lets say we had a misshap testing to see if it still held water 
anyways still got $150 for it on Kijiji. i will post a picture log or somthin as i set up the 75.
anyways still got $150 for it on Kijiji. i will post a picture log or somthin as i set up the 75.-
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Re: Plz i need some help
I used cinder blocks & wood planks to hold up a 125g tank for many years.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Plz i need some help
hey things in alberta arent to bad i lived there all last year! in banff national park, the more expensive area. lumber is cheap there cause theres no provincial sales tax! i just bought (in large lenghts but the cut up dimensions are) 4x2'6" 4x4 beams for legs, and the dimentions squared in 2x4s. a ring of 2x4s for the top and a ring of 2x4s for the bottom. i painted it all black and it looks really great, much better than i thought it would. didnt cost more than $40 dollars. just for next time consider 
for all that money you could have gotten a drill to drive it together and kept the drill forever! either way i hope it all works out for you and your ceylons stop bickering.
for all that money you could have gotten a drill to drive it together and kept the drill forever! either way i hope it all works out for you and your ceylons stop bickering.