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new puffers sick?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:49 am
by angelaz
I just bought 2 new gsps. The lighting was bad at the store, but when I got them home I put them in a quarantine tank, to look them over and get them adjusted to brakish water.
There tales are not looking so great, but I read to use melafix to help with fin regrowth. I know when they are coming from an extremely overpopulated tank it is likely that their fins may be damaged. I think their tales will be okay.
The problem: I can see their black spots just fine, but they also have like well it's hard to describe, I think hey kind of look like brown spots. The spots are kinda hard to see. I had me bf look at them and told him to describe it for me. He said they look dirty.
I really don't want to add sick fish in with my healthy little puffer (Baltazar). How can I make them better?
What do you think? velvet?
Re: new puffers sick?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:02 am
by Pufferpunk
They may display that paler coloration when stressed, or frightened. Are their bellies dark? It was very smart of your to QT them. I'd leave them there for about a month to be sure they are healthy, before adding to another healthy fish.
Re: new puffers sick?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:32 am
by angelaz
Their bellies are white.
Re: new puffers sick?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:33 am
by angelaz
I hope they are okay.
Thanks.
Re: new puffers sick?
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:50 pm
by angelaz
The one's belly is real dark sometimes when I walk over there. When I stand there a min it turns back to white. Do some of them get dark bellies when they sleep?
Their fins are also looking dark. From what I have read I thought their fins were supposed to stay clear. I have that stuff in there that is supposed to help their fins grow back, will that change the color of their fins? They are also not eating. I am going to try frozen krill tonight. Hopefully they will eat it. They ate the first night. One of them is looking really thin and the other still looks round.
I hope they get healthy. I think maybe the stuff I talked about in the original post was just them being all beat up. I think those spots are looking a little better.
Any thoughts?
Re: new puffers sick?
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:56 pm
by Blaine
You would need to answer the questions in red at the top of this page before we can offer any relevant advice....
Re: new puffers sick?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:20 am
by angelaz
1) Your water parameters -
pH 7.0
Ammonia 0
NH3 0
Nitrite ?
Nitrates ?
salinity 1.008
2) Tank size very small. 2 fish in 2 tanks. I have a 75 gallon I want to put them in, but i have a healthy gsp in there.
small tank one: 6.3 liter
small tank two: smaller than small tank 1
3) Feeding: they ate on the 17th when i got them. I had them both in the 6.3 liter and it was way to small. They ate some of a TetraCichlid Jumbo Stick that 1st night.
The second day I went and got them snails, I don't think they had ever had them. One of them ate them, because they disappeared. I did not see it.
Second night: I put the 2 puffers in separate tanks figuring they would be happier and they were. The water was all taken from my 75 gal tank.
I put Bio Coat in the water and added some Melafix for their fins.
I use Instant Ocean salt.
4) Every thing has been in the last week.
5) My 75 gal has been set up since the beginning of January. There are only under gravel filters in the small tanks, but I used the water from my 75 gal.
Re: new puffers sick?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:40 am
by angelaz
both fish just ate the frozen krill.
Re: new puffers sick?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:14 am
by Pufferpunk
1.5g & <1.5g. This isn't going to end well... They'd be better off in a 5g bucket, with 80% 2x daily water changes.
Re: new puffers sick?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:21 am
by angelaz
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okay. I'll try to get a 5gal bucket tomorrow.
Re: new puffers sick?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:24 am
by Pufferpunk
2 of them. I'd start soaking both of their foods in Jungle anti-parasite tabs.
Re: new puffers sick?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:53 am
by angelaz
I'll look for that at the pet store tomorrow.
Is it okay for their fins to be darker?
Re: new puffers sick?
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:10 pm
by Blaine
Problem I've spotted is that putting them in water from an established tank does nothing to establish the biofilter in their new tanks and UG filters take a long time to establish on their own. I would transfer them to larger quarters asap and add a HOB filter with some media from the 75 gal tanks filters.