Porcupine puffer got stuck in filter
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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Porcupine puffer got stuck in filter
I found my porcupine puffer stuck in my magnum filter today. I quick shut the filter off and he got of, but he's not using his tail fin at all. He's still swimming around, but I just don't know what to do. Should I just put him out of his misery or is this something that they can live with? Also my yellow tang is occassionaly nipping at his fins. I have a net I could put the puffer in, but I'm not sure how long he would live in there without being able to swim around. How can I make use of this filter still without the threat of something like this happening to another fish again.
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Re: Porcupine puffer got stuck in filter
Sorry to hear about your little guy 
I personally would wait. If you can separate the tang and the puffer (a divider) what would be ideal.
You can wrap the filter intake with some disposable floss, some pot scrubbers or a sponge filter (I did that in my fry tanks)
I hope the little guy recovers
I personally would wait. If you can separate the tang and the puffer (a divider) what would be ideal.
You can wrap the filter intake with some disposable floss, some pot scrubbers or a sponge filter (I did that in my fry tanks)
I hope the little guy recovers
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Re: Porcupine puffer got stuck in filter
Well I put the yellow tang in a small net cage thing that hangs from the side of the tank. Will this hurt the yellow tang or can he be in this netting for a day?
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Re: Porcupine puffer got stuck in filter
egg crate is better (the lighting fixture stuff). I am not sure a breeder net is the best idea.. I have never kept a tang so I am not the best to answer that question. Sorry
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Re: Porcupine puffer got stuck in filter
So should I just let the tang loose with the puffer or could I keep the tang in the net overnight until I can get the egg crate?
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Re: Porcupine puffer got stuck in filter
have you covered the filter intake as of yet?
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Re: Porcupine puffer got stuck in filter
You shouldn't put puffers in nets due to inflating. Have you covered your intake yet? Don't magnum filters come with a grill cover?
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Re: Porcupine puffer got stuck in filter
Lowes or Home Depot, look with the ceiling tiles. Its about $12 for a 2x4 foot piece of egg crate. Cut to fit and separate them.
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Re: Porcupine puffer got stuck in filter
A healthy puffer shouldn't get caught like that if the intake tube has the screen it comes with. What are you using this filter for? Do you have live rock, powerheads, protein skimmer?
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Re: Porcupine puffer got stuck in filter
I've got live rock in the tank. I have a protein skimmer and currently I have the filter off so that he won't get sucked in again. I just got him last tuesday and he wasn't eating at all yet. I had the cover on the end of the intake tube. I'll get the egg crate today and see if that helps at all. I've also got a powerhead going in the tank. Do they also get curious with those and could he get stuck in that as well?
Re: Porcupine puffer got stuck in filter
As Puffer Punk stated he shouldn't of got stuck on the intake to begin with if he was healthy. What are your water parameters, how long has the tank been set up, what size tank and what other inhabitants?
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Re: Porcupine puffer got stuck in filter
I wouldn't bother with a canister on SW anyway. Please also answer treck's Qs about your parameters. Better yet, I'm moving this to the Hospital Forum, so you can answer the Qs above, in red. How healthy has he seemed before this? Definitely do something about the tang, even if you have to re-home it.
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Re: Porcupine puffer got stuck in filter
I will check the water quality when I get home from work. Why not a canister filter for a saltwater tank?
Re: Porcupine puffer got stuck in filter
The only thing that I can think of that he wouldn't be that healthy is because he hasn't yet ate in my tank and it's been almost a week. I've tried silversides, clams, shrimp, krill.
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Also I don't have a hospital tank, but I could set a small one up so that I could used some sort of medicine in the tank. Or could I use medicine in the tank if I just seperate them. Would medicine harm the other fish? If medicine would be good what medicine is recommended?