Thin SAP

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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Thin SAP

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Hi, We have had 3 new puffers today :)

Went to a fish shop and they had 3 SAP's but one was looking rather poorly so we told the attendant that we would take the healthier looking pair, he told us if we took the other two we could have the third free, so we took him.

He is a SAP around 1.5'' long with a very thin belly and darker coloration, the three of them are showing mild white spots so im going to treat that with aquarium salt and higher temps but i am unsure what to do with the suspected internal parasites?

I am in the UK so some/most/all of the treatments mentioned in the library section arnt available, will any parasite meds soaked into the food help?

Btw, the poo seems to be a normal color, lightish brown, not red or white.

We are trying to get a good picture of him to help.

Regards, Sam.
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He maybe have been bullied and not eating well, give him a chance to settle in and eat some and see if he plumps up. If not meds would be a good idea
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Ok, is it worth treating all of them anyway?

Is the aquarium salt and higher temp the right way to go for the whitespot?
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Personally I would get them over the whitespot first, and then worry about the internal parasites.
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Here is the recommended treatment for ich:
library/hospital/fwich/

It sounds like you've read what we have in the library about internal parasites. Several people on here have bought their medications on Ebay. What antiparasitic medications are available to you?
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SAPs are very sensitive to being moved & almost always develop ich & IPs. You can treat for both at the same time.
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Post by spanerman »

Thanks,

These http://www.aquaessentials.co.uk/medicat ... 5_244.html are pretty much all the meds i can get hold of easily.

Could you recommend what ones to use? For the Ich and Worms/Parasites

Sam.
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No meds necessary for ich. Read the link on treating, above. Use this for IPs: http://www.aquaessentials.co.uk/kusuri- ... 4he9889kk1
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