saltwater ich?
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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sample789
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saltwater ich?
i think if finally happened to me, i noticed this morning my lawnmower blenny was itching on the sand and the rocks and would bite his tail. i dont see any white spots but im not very familiar with saltwater ich. if you no of any other diseases that it could be i would love to no and if not should i treat for ich now or wait until im sure? only bad thing with the water parameters is the nitrates are a little high but still under 20 ppm. the only new inhabitants ive gotten for a long time are two hermit crabs.
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Re: saltwater ich?
Article in our Library on this.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: saltwater ich?
Hyposalinity is the key. Catch the article in the Library Hospital section.
"Darwin swings...annnnnnd a miss. Boy Jim, Chuck's suffered at the plate tonight. He's 0 for 3 and I'm not sure he's recovered from that shoulder pull a few weeks ago. I'll bet the front office is re-thinking that contract."
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Re: saltwater ich?
ok so with the hyposalinity do i just put him in a tank with a low salinity or do i put him in one with the same salinity then lower it with water changes? also i was inspecting him for white spots and i noticed his stomach was moving around. i had just fed him about 15 minutes earlier but could this maybe be internal parasites or just him digesting?
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Re: saltwater ich?
Start at normal salinity in a bare bottom, hospital tank and take the tank down to hypo. Give your fish some hiding places like PVC tubes so they feel more secure. You want to run your main tank fallow for the 30 day duration to kill off any ich in the tank.
"Darwin swings...annnnnnd a miss. Boy Jim, Chuck's suffered at the plate tonight. He's 0 for 3 and I'm not sure he's recovered from that shoulder pull a few weeks ago. I'll bet the front office is re-thinking that contract."
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Re: saltwater ich?
Be sure you keep a very close eye on parameters--testing several times/day. This tank isn't going to be cycled. Have lots of water ready for lots of WC.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: saltwater ich?
ok i have a problem the only tank i can put my fish in is a ten gallon tank, but there is no way there all going to fit, is there any way i can just move the blenny and pray my other fish dont catch it or what should i do. im sorry to be such a nuisance i just want the best for my fish 
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Re: saltwater ich?
If you're going to go thru all this, why not make sure he even has this parasite? Look really closely.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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sample789
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Re: saltwater ich?
ive been looking every day and no signs are showing up except him itching but he is itching alot like every ten seconds then he will sit and bite himselfPufferpunk wrote:If you're going to go thru all this, why not make sure he even has this parasite? Look really closely.
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Re: saltwater ich?
You're not being a nuisance, your asking great questions! This is one of the reasons we're here! I'll defer to PufferPunk on this one, she knows a ton more about SW fish than I do, and I agree with the wait and see (especially since you only have a 10 gal available). If they're not showing spots wait it out, if they start to show spots like ich then we can figure out a way to treat them.sample789 wrote: im sorry to be such a nuisance i just want the best for my fish
"Darwin swings...annnnnnd a miss. Boy Jim, Chuck's suffered at the plate tonight. He's 0 for 3 and I'm not sure he's recovered from that shoulder pull a few weeks ago. I'll bet the front office is re-thinking that contract."
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- Location: Bennett, Colorado
Re: saltwater ich?
alright ill wait it out thanks for the help. ill keep you guys posted on what happens