Lip "out of joint"? Severum; advice from my Puffer friends?

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Lip "out of joint"? Severum; advice from my Puffer friends?

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Hi guys - problem in one of my other tanks - sadly, my Redheaded Severum isn't doing well. Over the past week or so, I thought he might have been fighting with the other fish (large Jade Goby, Parrots, Geos, Silver Dollars, all nice quiet fish - no agression). But he stopped eating and his lips look like they're "out of joint" - see in the picture, they look odd. And he has a few scratches on his head now. What do you think? I've had him for about 4 years, always been healthy and happy.

I posted this to the Cichlid Forums, but no advice yet ... :(

http://www.cichlidforums.com/showthread ... post267044

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Below, a great picture of him when he was happy ... any advice would be helpful! Thanks!

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That looks terribly uncomfortable. I think PP might be able to help on this though.
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What a beautiful fish! It may just be swollen, I'd stick with Melafix for now but Epsom salt may help with swelling.
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Sandee wrote:Hi guys - problem in one of my other tanks - sadly, my Redheaded Severum isn't doing well. Over the past week or so, I thought he might have been fighting with the other fish (large Jade Goby, Parrots, Geos, Silver Dollars, all nice quiet fish - no agression). But he stopped eating and his lips look like they're "out of joint" - see in the picture, they look odd. And he has a few scratches on his head now. What do you think? I've had him for about 4 years, always been healthy and happy.

I posted this to the Cichlid Forums, but no advice yet ... :(

http://www.cichlidforums.com/showthread ... post267044

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Below, a great picture of him when he was happy ... any advice would be helpful! Thanks!

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Looks like Hole in the head disease to me.
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Thanks for the replies. No, that wasn't Hole in the Head, that was marks due to his thrashing around the tank (in pain, I think). Sadly, he died the day after I posted this. He was a really handsome fish.

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Sorry for your loss :( . Did you name the fish?
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Awwww... :(
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Woodbutcher wrote:Sorry for your loss :( . Did you name the fish?
Well, he wasn't the most playful fish in the tank - so he was just "Red Head".

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That's too bad, he was beautiful. :rip: Red Head.
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Well that was a good name. ------- :rip: Red Head
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