1) ph is 7.5, no ammonia
2) 44g tank, 1 GSP, 7 tiger barbs, 3 gold barbs, 8 danios, 1 pecostomus
3) fed once a day, some times twice, change the water weekly about 30 %,
4) no changes
5) aquarium has been set up for over 4 years, took the fish that were in the tank out and put them in another tank, then added the fish that are in it now
I was going to do a 50% WC today and start adding 1.003. sg water to the tank to change from FW to BW, as I have only had my puffer for just over a week, but this morning I noticed that the pecostomus and tiger barbs have ick..... can't see any ick spots on the GSP, so Im not certain that he doesn't have it. I know that the tiger barbs and the rest of the fish cannot be changed to BW, was going to move them to one of my other tanks. Should I treat this tank for ick before I start adding the BW?
my green spotted puffer may have ick
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4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: my green spotted puffer may have ick
In my opinion, I would put the transformation to brackish on hold, and deal with the ich first. Even if your GSP isn't showing it yet, it soon will and by then, it could be very bad. I would get the treatment going tonight, or tomorrow, and turn up your thermometer too, that speeds up the cycle of the parasite and makes it easier to get rid of.
Make sure you do the treatment long enough, and do frequent water changes during the treatment to get rid of the parasites that fall away from the fish (before they can attack again). Also be very careful about using the same equipment on any of your other tanks, or you could transfer the ich to other tanks.
Good luck!
Make sure you do the treatment long enough, and do frequent water changes during the treatment to get rid of the parasites that fall away from the fish (before they can attack again). Also be very careful about using the same equipment on any of your other tanks, or you could transfer the ich to other tanks.
Good luck!
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Re: my green spotted puffer may have ick
What temp should i raise to?....
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Re: my green spotted puffer may have ick
If I remember right, I believe reading that at 85F the parasite stops infecting new fish, and at stops reproducing at 86F, and at 89.5F actually dies. I've never taken my temperature above 86F .... but raising the temp does seem to get rid of it quicker. Thing is, don't raise it too quickly so you don't freak your fish out. But gradually get it up and the heat will do alot of work for you.
**(I just checked the article, and those are the right temperatures that I quoted)**
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Re: my green spotted puffer may have ick
Follow the instructions in the ich article in our Library.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: my green spotted puffer may have ick
is Ick Guard by Jungle fish care fine to use?....it says to only use half doseage for scale-less fish......it also says that it kills ick without raising water temperatures.....should i still raise the temp?
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Re: my green spotted puffer may have ick
No meds for treating ich. Please read that article.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: my green spotted puffer may have ick
so melafix, salt, a higher temp and WC's every other day will get rid of it then?
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Re: my green spotted puffer may have ick
Now ya got it! 
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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