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Human medicine - safe to use?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:46 am
by By_a_coo
Hi there!

I just have a few question about this subject:
Where I live is hard to get medicines like PraziPro, Ultra Cure Gel-tek and so to treat internal parasites, if I need a good one I should import some but it would be too expensive to afford. So I always google the medicines you mention here to check what they are made of.

Levamisole HCl is one of the cheapest pills (costs cents) to buy (for human usage) and its directions says to take a unique dose and the worms will be out of the body within 24-48h. Is this applicable to fish? The same to praziquantel?

One more thing, I found a good medicine to deworm dogs that contains praziquantel, pyrantel pamoate and febantel. Its directions says it takes one dosage to eliminate worms within 24-48h.

I'm asking this questions, because I am deworming my F8 and I was able to inject the medicine inside a snail shell (taking a tiny piece from the pill). So should I follow the human/dog medicine directions? Unique dose? I don't know the best course of action, could you please help me?

Thanks and sorry for the long text.

Re: Human medicine - safe to use?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:49 am
by Nick
Dog medicine often contains fillers that I would not put in my fish tank to make it palatable to dogs. But the human grade might work as a food soak, IF it's low filler.

Re: Human medicine - safe to use?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:52 am
by Agnate
Is your puffer DESPERATELY sick with IPs (to the point that his plump belly disappears in 2-5 hours)? If he's not dangerously sick with IPs, I highly suggest you use the pumpkin seed method. I imagine you could find pumpkin seeds near you (we have them in clear plastic containers near the peanuts, almonds, etc.), maybe in a local grocery store? Like many others, I'm avidly against using medication unless it's absolutely critical. The pumpkin seed method works quite well (assuming you don't accidentally burn the mixture while cooking >_<), and it's very inexpensive ($3 for the seeds).

I don't know much about meds, so I'd listen to Nick and any others with more experience on medicinal substitutes.

Re: Human medicine - safe to use?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:05 pm
by By_a_coo
That's why my fish is in a QT, I change daily 100% of water. Fillers can be harmful to the fish? I already knew about the pumpkin seed method but it doesn't sound to do great deal. Have you ever tried it before? I'll go search for it in the forum... how about the directions of that meds I mentioned? Should I skip this kind of treatment?

Re: Human medicine - safe to use?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:27 pm
by Jase
I've heard Pumpkin seed works quite well actually. I would stick with the natural route and if you must use meds, then stick with what's already proven good/safe. no need to risk your puffer just for a couple bucks. ;)

Re: Human medicine - safe to use?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:07 pm
by GSP
Well I wish Nick or Agnate would have replied to my IP threads earlier.

It would have been useful to me before, now its too late.

Dont use meds, I highly recomend the Pumpkin seed method. I havent tried it but the other ways are to dangerous.

Re: Human medicine - safe to use?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:09 pm
by GSP
Well I wish Nick or Agnate would have replied to my IP threads earlier.

It would have been useful to me before, now its too late.

Dont use meds, I highly recomend the Pumpkin seed method. I havent tried it but the other ways are to dangerous.

Re: Human medicine - safe to use?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:19 pm
by By_a_coo
Thanks friends... I'm gonna find the pumpkin seeds, it must not be hard to find it around hear.

Jase - As I mentioned above, we don't have treatment for internal parasites for fish. Everybody here use to use metronidazol. To get a good medicine, I would import some and I can't afford it.

Once again, I would like to thank you all for helped me!

Re: Human medicine - safe to use?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:15 pm
by Nick
Make sure the seeds are NOT roasted. The active components degrade quickly with heat. I've never tried that myself, and I've heard that if it doens't work the first time, get seeds from a different source, because as with any natural product you must refine yourself, the base potency varies quite a bit.

Re: Human medicine - safe to use?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:16 pm
by Nick
I wish I saw and had a chance to reply to all sick fish threads, but somestimes I don't get a chance. I was using "show new posts" for a while, rather than browsing for new posts, and it misses some apparently.

Re: Human medicine - safe to use?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:12 pm
by By_a_coo
I use "show new posts" too, this is the way I learn a little more about these wonderful fish. I wish I was more expert to help everybody too...

I really appreciate all of your comments/advices/help!

Re: Human medicine - safe to use?

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:10 pm
by Agnate
Yeah, I apologize GSP. I don't always get a chance to see all the posts, and a lot of times if I see someone like Yunachin or Pufferpunk post in a topic, I assume they've already handled it.

Again, sorry! :(

Re: Human medicine - safe to use?

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:04 am
by Jase
By_a_coo wrote:Jase - As I mentioned above, we don't have treatment for internal parasites for fish. Everybody here use to use metronidazol. To get a good medicine, I would import some and I can't afford it.
sorry, must've missed that. have you looked at that new stuff that... dang it I forgot who found it... Myaj?
anyways, the thread is called "ip for us in the UK" or something. it looks like good stuff. :)

Re: Human medicine - safe to use?

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:15 pm
by By_a_coo
I'm gonna to check it! Thanks