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Cambodgiensis or Barbatus
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:28 am
by jelly
I have what was supposed to be a Fangs Puffer. It has turned out to be Monotrete Cambodgiensis/Barbatus. Its a really attractive fish. Is there a way to tell the difference between Cambodgiensis and Barbatus.
Has anyone kept these guys, Is there anything other than the usual medium sized puffer care I should be aware of.
Thanks
Re: Cambodgiensis or Barbatus
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:11 am
by Hilly
They're the same thing, Cambodgiensis is considered the correct name now.
Any pics?
Re: Cambodgiensis or Barbatus
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:37 am
by jelly
Cool. I will get some pics up.
Are they considered rare or is it a common Puffer.
Re: Cambodgiensis or Barbatus
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:39 am
by Hilly
Not commonly seen for sale in the UK so you could say it's rare. What sort of size is it?
Re: Cambodgiensis or Barbatus
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:15 am
by jelly
Its 4.5", I paid about £30 for it.
Re: Cambodgiensis or Barbatus
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:22 am
by Hilly
Will definitely be interested to see what this guy looks like, good be a could discussion for an ID. Is there a large target spot and a long snout.
Re: Cambodgiensis or Barbatus
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:19 am
by Woland
As I understand it; the correct name for cambodgiensis/barbatus is Monotrete barbatus.
Re: Cambodgiensis or Barbatus
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:07 pm
by Corvus
M. cambodgiensis is up to date AFAIK. T. barbatus was used by Roberts 1998. It is now seen as a junior synonym to the older taxon M. cambodgiensis by Kottelat (Fishes of Laos, 2001).
Re: Cambodgiensis or Barbatus
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:56 pm
by jelly
Hilly wrote:Will definitely be interested to see what this guy looks like, good be a could discussion for an ID. Is there a large target spot and a long snout.
Yes Long snout and a large black Target towards the rear.
Re: Cambodgiensis or Barbatus
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:50 pm
by Woland
Corvus wrote:M. cambodgiensis is up to date AFAIK. T. barbatus was used by Roberts 1998. It is now seen as a junior synonym to the older taxon M. cambodgiensis by Kottelat (Fishes of Laos, 2001).
And thank you Corvus.
Monotrete cambodgiensis it is....
Re: Cambodgiensis or Barbatus
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:39 am
by jelly
Some Pics of Him\Her
Re: Cambodgiensis or Barbatus
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:42 am
by Hilly
Well definitely not a Fang's. First instinct is M. Cambodgiensis. looks a brute.
Re: Cambodgiensis or Barbatus
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:50 am
by Corvus
M. leiurus.
Superb specimen! Thanks for sharing!
Re: Cambodgiensis or Barbatus
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:51 am
by Hilly
Corvus wrote:M. leiurus.
Superb specimen! Thanks for sharing!
Thought the Leiurus was lighter than that.
Re: Cambodgiensis or Barbatus
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:09 am
by Corvus
One of the main differences of leiurus and cambodgiensis is the transition of the back to the belly. It is very sharply bordered in cambodgiensis. Compare Seans specimen in the pufferpedia to the one here.
http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/ug. ... ysean2.jpg
The one here is as typically leiurus as can be IMO with the spots reaching down to be belly while gradually becoming lighter. Looks like most of the holotype specimens leiurus was based on AFAIK.
