Cambodgiensis or Barbatus

jelly · Post by **jelly** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:28 am

I have what was supposed to be a Fangs Puffer. It has turned out to be Monotrete Cambodgiensis/Barbatus. Its a really attractive fish. Is there a way to tell the difference between Cambodgiensis and Barbatus.

Has anyone kept these guys, Is there anything other than the usual medium sized puffer care I should be aware of.

Thanks

Post by **Hilly** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:11 am

They're the same thing, Cambodgiensis is considered the correct name now.
Any pics?

jelly · Post by **jelly** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:37 am

Cool. I will get some pics up.

Are they considered rare or is it a common Puffer.

Post by **Hilly** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:39 am

Not commonly seen for sale in the UK so you could say it's rare. What sort of size is it?

jelly · Post by **jelly** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:15 am

Its 4.5", I paid about £30 for it.

Post by **Hilly** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:22 am

Will definitely be interested to see what this guy looks like, good be a could discussion for an ID. Is there a large target spot and a long snout.

Woland · Post by **Woland** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:19 am

As I understand it; the correct name for cambodgiensis/barbatus is Monotrete barbatus.

Post by **Corvus** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:07 pm

M. cambodgiensis is up to date AFAIK. T. barbatus was used by Roberts 1998. It is now seen as a junior synonym to the older taxon M. cambodgiensis by Kottelat (Fishes of Laos, 2001).

jelly · Post by **jelly** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:56 pm

Hilly wrote:Will definitely be interested to see what this guy looks like, good be a could discussion for an ID. Is there a large target spot and a long snout.

Yes Long snout and a large black Target towards the rear.

Woland · Post by **Woland** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:50 pm

Corvus wrote:M. cambodgiensis is up to date AFAIK. T. barbatus was used by Roberts 1998. It is now seen as a junior synonym to the older taxon M. cambodgiensis by Kottelat (Fishes of Laos, 2001).

And thank you Corvus.

Monotrete cambodgiensis it is....

jelly · Post by **jelly** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:39 am

Some Pics of Him\Her

Post by **Hilly** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:42 am

Well definitely not a Fang's. First instinct is M. Cambodgiensis. looks a brute.

Post by **Corvus** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:50 am

M. leiurus.

Superb specimen! Thanks for sharing!

Post by **Hilly** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:51 am

Corvus wrote:M. leiurus.

Superb specimen! Thanks for sharing!

Thought the Leiurus was lighter than that.

Post by **Corvus** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:09 am

One of the main differences of leiurus and cambodgiensis is the transition of the back to the belly. It is very sharply bordered in cambodgiensis. Compare Seans specimen in the pufferpedia to the one here.

http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/ug. ... ysean2.jpg

The one here is as typically leiurus as can be IMO with the spots reaching down to be belly while gradually becoming lighter. Looks like most of the holotype specimens leiurus was based on AFAIK.

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