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Re: A little help

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:50 am
by pufferfreak
Not good. The overload of waste in that tank must have been what poisoned him. I would not get another one tomorrow if this one doesn't do well especially if its from the same tank.

Try brine shrimp and what about his eye: fuzzy? translucent film?

Re: A little help

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:52 am
by SharkBait
hmmmmm ok ill try to get some tomorrow

its kinds of looks like let me check 1 min

well it kind of looks a spot of white cloud hmmm not sure how to say it i guess it looks like split


Edit: and how do we tell if the puffer fish has over grown teeth
Edit: but the spot is too small to tell so its like a small marble and if u look through it u will see something almost the same


im sorry if this doesnt make sense

Re: A little help

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:17 am
by SharkBait
yeah i guess i am going to get a new fish since i am scared of getting sick fish and ruinning my tank bio-system

but if hes blinded u guys have anything that can help him feel better

Edit" sorry double post

Re: A little help

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:32 am
by pufferfreak
His teeth are overgrown if they are touching each other and/or fold over each other. Read these for his eyes - http://www.fishyfarmacy.com/fish_diseases/eyes.html

Re: A little help

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:53 am
by SharkBait
hmmm but the teeth are inside so how would i tell ? do i have to use that oil to stun it?

Re: A little help

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:56 am
by Myaj
Hi Sharkbait.

First of all, there is always one thing to concentrate on when you have a sick fish, and that is clean water. If you don't regularly do water changes, start doing them now, small ones at first, moving up to larger ones.

Puffers do not handle dirty water at all, and develop a ton of issues from it. Since you don't know your nitrates, its hard to tell if that is the problem.. and FYI, a biowheel that is doing its job properly will only produce nitrates FASTER, it doesn't remove them. Only water changes can do that (or live plants, but at a much slower rate).

Do not be surprised if this puffer does not survive, but do try to bring it around by keeping the water extra clean (daily water changes if you are able). If you are able to get pictures, let us see what it looks like, so we can get an idea if the eye problem is fungal, bacterial, etc.

What is also a very likely problem is internal parasites. GSP's are all wild caught and usually have some parasites, and the stress of being caught/shipped/displayed/moved/new tank setup can really lower their immune system, allowing the IP's to really take advantage. There is a point that once the infestation has gone too far, the fish just stops eating and doesn't recover (you can try deworming via water treatment but it often doesn't work if the fish has reached this point)... your puffer MIGHT be at that point, but it also might not.. get the water as clean as possible and see if his appetite returns.

Bloodworms are a great idea.. just be sure you are cleaning up any uneaten food so it doesn't pollute the tank more.

Re: A little help

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:41 am
by Pufferpunk
And please don't get another puffer until you really understand the specefic care they need. Great articles in our Library on GSPs, feeding, & treating internal parasites.

Re: A little help

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:22 pm
by SharkBait
i do water changes alot 30~50% every week so i know the water is clean but i think its not cause of my tank.....
its causes of the fish i got from my LFS

Re: A little help

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:23 pm
by LilGreenPuffer
Most of us do 50% minimum every week, unless our tanks are understocked. You don't know that your water is clean until you test it.

Re: A little help

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:30 pm
by SharkBait
Lilgreenpuffer XD i did test the water it came out clean
but they didnt tell me my nitrates

and i tryed everything he just doesnt eat

Edit; but i am taking it back to my LFS for a new fish cause this guy i know his mom that owns the shop doesnt take really good care of any of there fish

Re: A little help

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:51 pm
by LilGreenPuffer
You don't know that the water is clean until you know the nitrates, too.

What kind of fish are you getting?

The pet store that takes care of its livestock is a rare thing. *sigh*

Re: A little help

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:10 pm
by SharkBait
i traded in for a arrowhead black tail i hope it can grow in to 14inches in a few months so i can add it in with my silver arrowhead
Edit: but i added like 100 dollors in it also XD since they just got him
Edit;i also know why he didnt eat his Lip has a little white spot on it its like glued shut his mouth

Re: A little help

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:41 pm
by LilGreenPuffer
Arowanas, you mean?

Re: A little help

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:58 pm
by SharkBait
yeah but here we call it arrowhead dont know why

Re: A little help

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:36 pm
by LilGreenPuffer
You know that the silver arowana will get to four feet, right?