Hi-
I've already cryed for quite awhile over this. I know I don't have all the answers because I didn't know I had to do all of the water testing for saltwater fish. I ask things and no one here ever knows so I am hopeing that you guys do before its too late. I have a green spotted puffer fish named Dragon. But right now he is yellow and won't eat. He now is just floating at times and swimming at others in the tank. Sometimes I even think he is dead.This started just before I moved out of my last place. But it didn't get bad until today. I wasn't sure if he was having problems until yesterday, ive tried getting new food and adding the stuff I added to try to help Dragons brother, but its just not working. I even did a full water change because it has been recommended to me to do.
1) I don't know what the water parameters are, and its too late at night to get the stuff for it.
2) Its a 10 gallon take and Dragon is the only one in it, his brother Magic died the same way. I have taken all fake plants and anything he can get stuck on out so he can at least swim.
3) I try to feed him in the morning, sometimes at night be he doesn't seem to like it at night, I feed him frozen Krill. I also just bought some hard pellets to see if he would eat those, I use a water conditioner called aquasafe and I have used aquari-sol.
4) I was using tap water from my old apartment and he seemed fine in that but I just moved on Wednesday and had to add some tap water from the new apartment, I didn't fill the tank up all the way because he likes to play by the filter and have the water push him, not to where he is being pushed and can't stop but he looks like he likes it. I have the filter off right now because it would push him in the state that his is in and im afraid that he will get stuck to the filter.
5) I also didn't know about the cycle thing.
If anyone can help at all I would really like that.
Thank you.
Jenni
I'm sure my puffer is dieing
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: I'm sure my puffer is dieing
Did he perk up after the water change? How much salt is in there?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: I'm sure my puffer is dieing
He did perk up after the water change and I went out and got water from walmart that was bottled hopeing it would be ok. I put 1/4 cup per gallon.
Re: I'm sure my puffer is dieing
Do you think he may have parasites?
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Re: I'm sure my puffer is dieing
Aquarium salt or marine salt? Do another 50% water change right now, without adding any salt, just the conditioner.
Please describe how the other one died.
Please describe how the other one died.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: I'm sure my puffer is dieing
Its called instant ocean. The last one that died stopped eating for three days, but he seemed to be swimming fine, I came home on the fourth day and he had passed.
Re: I'm sure my puffer is dieing
My boyfriend just came home with two types of medication for Dragon. Jungle Anti-Parasite Medicated Fish food, and Jungle Farasite Clear tank buddies. The last one is a fizz. I haven't put either of them in yet do you think I should? Ive had him for about three months, I got him from a friend who got him from walmart.
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Re: I'm sure my puffer is dieing
Do not indiscrimanantly aadd any meds. You don't know what's wrong with it. You don't know for sure the fish has parasites & I highly doube this is your probblem.
You say you didn't know about cycling. Do you understand the process now? How long has this tank been set up since the last fish was in there?
You say you didn't know about cycling. Do you understand the process now? How long has this tank been set up since the last fish was in there?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: I'm sure my puffer is dieing
It's been up for about a month, maybe even longer.
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Re: I'm sure my puffer is dieing
Do you have Yahoo IM? I have to go to sleep soon & it would be easier not to have to wait for each post.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: I'm sure my puffer is dieing
We did the change, his color is starting to come back. I forgot his belly will get really black. Right now there are black areas on it but not all over the belly, he has always had this problem. We also sectioned off the filter and started it so the water can mix alittle better.
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Re: I'm sure my puffer is dieing
Alright, I'm going to bed. Do a 50% WC right now & I'll talk in the morning. Do not add any salt to the new water.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: I'm sure my puffer is dieing
You must leave the filter on. Cut out a fresh sponge & put over the intake if you have to.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: I'm sure my puffer is dieing
Thank you for your help tonight, im going to head off to bed too and hope for the best.