Fubinol 15 for External Parasites?
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Fubinol 15 for External Parasites?
Does it work for ich or gill flukes? How does one get it here in the US?
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Re: Fubinol 15 for External Parasites?
As far as I know from my exchanges with Paul, it kills any invertebrate lower(and for sensitive ones, a few higher) on the evolutionary ladder than snails. That would definately include gill flukes, but I doubt it would have any effect on ich, probably too different genetically. It works by preventing nutrient uptake and causing cell necrosis, so if ich happens to have an appropriate receptor on it's cell membranes I suppose it would work, but my gut instinct on that is no. I got it here in the US with a simple email to the company requesting overseas shipment.
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Re: Fubinol 15 for External Parasites?
If you go to flubenol.co.uk (owned by P. Fox Industries), you can buy it online and have it shipped to just about anywhere. I got some for Poofer a few months ago.
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Re: Fubinol 15 for External Parasites?
PP I would highly advise you to PM Paul Fox first.
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Re: Fubinol 15 for External Parasites?
I wonder if it would work for nematodes. You could inject a solution with high concentration of flubenol directly into the nematode when the fish is sedated.
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Re: Fubinol 15 for External Parasites?
Can't imagine it would have a problem with them, and not sure you'd need to inject - its designed for fish use, and will uptake rapidly into the bloodstream through the gills.
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Re: Fubinol 15 for External Parasites?
It would most likely work on nematodes, and without need for injection. The reason I wouldn't use it on nematodes is they will rot and fester inside the fish's body unlike other IPs that pass through the digestive system once dead. If the nematode is small it may not be as harmful but there's no good way of knowing how many are in the fish that you cannot see signs of yet.
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Re: Fubinol 15 for External Parasites?
That site addy doesn't work.
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Re: Fubinol 15 for External Parasites?
Hasn't worked in quite some time now.
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Re: Fubinol 15 for External Parasites?
dont know what the crack is with the flubenol website there is still some on ebay when searching for discus wormer dont know if they will ship to the states though.
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Re: Fubinol 15 for External Parasites?
Rocker wrote:PP I would highly advise you to PM Paul Fox first.
As I said above. Yes the site is down for reasons I cannot discuss.
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Re: Fubinol 15 for External Parasites?
So where are we supposed to order it from?
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Re: Fubinol 15 for External Parasites?
Search ebay for discuss wormer. They'll ship the the US as long as you pay for the shipment.
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Re: Fubinol 15 for External Parasites?
Pufferpunk wrote:So where are we supposed to order it from?
contact Paul Fox directly!
Some call it a product of a mis-spent youth, I call it Rock n Roll ! Re: Fubinol 15 for External Parasites?
Hi guys
The site is down for a number of reasons, firstly, there was a bad batch, so supply is very limited, the laws are due to change in a few months, so it made sense to close it as it needs to be re-branded and renamed/formulated and because of problems at home, as Ian says, if anyone wants any 'wormer' please pm me, I dont post a lot on here or anywhere atm, but I do check for pms
The site is down for a number of reasons, firstly, there was a bad batch, so supply is very limited, the laws are due to change in a few months, so it made sense to close it as it needs to be re-branded and renamed/formulated and because of problems at home, as Ian says, if anyone wants any 'wormer' please pm me, I dont post a lot on here or anywhere atm, but I do check for pms