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Today I was giving food to the GSP and I guess the rest of the fish in the tank rushed to him and he got scared and started puffing up.... So now it's been 5 minutes and the belly is still big and it looks deformed!!! will it return to it's normal size ever again?
I took pictures by the way, Ill post them up when I have time
GSP Puffed Up, but can't return to normal size!!!
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
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2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: GSP Puffed Up, but can't return to normal size!!!
From what i have read, it is possible for water to get caught up inside his stomach (lining, gutts) ?? as he relaxes the water should work its way out, i am pretty sure he will return to normal size, may take a few hours/day?
Shame, must be a stressful experience for the poor puffer.....
If all the water dose not come out it might be possible to use the same method used for cutting teeth to put him into a dozy relaxed state then massage his tummy, i would first check this with one of the more knowledgeable persons but i don't see any reason why this would not help/work ?
Look forward to seeing the pic, i have never seen a GSP puffed up b4.
Shame, must be a stressful experience for the poor puffer.....
If all the water dose not come out it might be possible to use the same method used for cutting teeth to put him into a dozy relaxed state then massage his tummy, i would first check this with one of the more knowledgeable persons but i don't see any reason why this would not help/work ?
Look forward to seeing the pic, i have never seen a GSP puffed up b4.
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Re: GSP Puffed Up, but can't return to normal size!!!
They can usually unpuff themselves fine although it can take awhile. If he's still puffed after an hour, you may need to "burp" him. There should be a sticky thread about that. Do not anesthetize him to do it.
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Re: GSP Puffed Up, but can't return to normal size!!!
I believe the burping thread is in the Hosp section of our Library.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: GSP Puffed Up, but can't return to normal size!!!
was also wondering if he has returned to normal size?
Boxermom, thanks for clearing the anesthetize thing, would hate to be the suggester of bad advice!
maybe you can give me/us some comment on these questions witch i though of after reading/posting to this topic - http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/vie ... f=5&t=9555
Boxermom, thanks for clearing the anesthetize thing, would hate to be the suggester of bad advice!
maybe you can give me/us some comment on these questions witch i though of after reading/posting to this topic - http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/vie ... f=5&t=9555
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Re: GSP Puffed Up, but can't return to normal size!!!
yes he did return to his normal size... for some reason he keeps doing it now when i give him food.... btw here's the video:
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Re: GSP Puffed Up, but can't return to normal size!!!
Are you sure you aren't over feeding him? When we feed a lot of food to our ceylons their bellies look like that too.
BTW, how big is your tank? I see that you have two GSP's in it. They need at least 30g each you know? Both of the puffers look like they have tattered tails, most likely from nipping.
BTW, how big is your tank? I see that you have two GSP's in it. They need at least 30g each you know? Both of the puffers look like they have tattered tails, most likely from nipping.
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Re: GSP Puffed Up, but can't return to normal size!!!
He is def. not puffed up. Cut back on the food. That fish is just fat, to the point of not being healthy. If he puffed his whole underside would be like 4 times bigger to the point he's a nearly perfect sphere.
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Re: GSP Puffed Up, but can't return to normal size!!!
flamesofifreet, I deleted your double-post.
Yes, that puffer is badly overfed, especially if he's like that all of the time. His stomach should be slightly rounded after feeding, not bulging. Puffed GSPs look very different.
Yes, that puffer is badly overfed, especially if he's like that all of the time. His stomach should be slightly rounded after feeding, not bulging. Puffed GSPs look very different.
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Re: GSP Puffed Up, but can't return to normal size!!!
I know for a fact that he's not overfed, he's actually puffed. That's before I fed him, I was holding the food with chopsticks and he came near it and started turning fat like that so I took the food back and got my camera real quick. He was actually bigger when he was first starting to puffBoxermom wrote:flamesofifreet, I deleted your double-post.
Yes, that puffer is badly overfed, especially if he's like that all of the time. His stomach should be slightly rounded after feeding, not bulging. Puffed GSPs look very different.
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Re: GSP Puffed Up, but can't return to normal size!!!
At first I thought it was a bit of food stuck at the front of the stomach, on a second watch it is perfectly round, if it was food you would expect it to be a mis-shapen lump. Interesting behaviour on this individual.
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Re: GSP Puffed Up, but can't return to normal size!!!
my tank is 40gals, one GSP is in another tank right now. About the tattered tails, I got them like that about a month ago. The LFS was keeping like 7-8 GSP on a 20gal tank that's why the tails are all tattered.spoot wrote:Are you sure you aren't over feeding him? When we feed a lot of food to our ceylons their bellies look like that too.
BTW, how big is your tank? I see that you have two GSP's in it. They need at least 30g each you know? Both of the puffers look like they have tattered tails, most likely from nipping.
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Re: GSP Puffed Up, but can't return to normal size!!!
I've never seen a GSP puff like that. All of the ones I've seen puff get puffed from basically chin to tail, never just a little pouch like that. Are you sure its not constipated or overfed?
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Re: GSP Puffed Up, but can't return to normal size!!!
Anyone think it could be an airbubble?