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Milet
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Advice on my Paludarium Plans

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Hey people.Okay, the following is my plans so far for my planted paludarium. This is not going to be my final attempt at doing this, rather a "Trial and Error" or a draft, so I have something to learn off when constructing one on a larger scale for reptiles and fish together.

My tank is 1220X460X460 mm and I'm running a Fluval 404 through it. I need help with in this project are; Materials for the shelf to hold substrate, technique for holding the walls together, where to put my input and output for my filter, possibly creating a waterfall with my filter output, and I'm sure I'll have a million more questions since I don't stop asking them.

In the tank at the moment are 2 Figure Eight Puffers, 10 Neons and 1 Pleco. The water is strictly fresh (the puffers were adjusted to it a year ago by previous owners), but once I have completly sorted out my dry land and tank, I'll be removing Neons, Pleco and some of the Aquatic Plants. So then I will be slowly adjusting the tank to brackish water and adding my friends Archers in once the waters right.

Here are some rough ideas of what I want to accomplish.
Note: This is not all that will be in the tank, I'm just showing how I am thinking of doing the Dry land part of it.
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Question Time:

1. For the walls, I was thinking of using Clear Perspex. Attached with a lot of strong silicone. And possibly some small strips of perspex where the substrate will be (between tank wall and perspex) siliconed in for extra support. Will this be strong enough?

2. Filter/Waterfall. Would it work if I had the filters output going onto a slope? Kinda like the end of a hydroslide, made with bent perspex.

3. Which of the diagrams do you think would be best? Just the back wall, or the L Shaped garden.

4. In the raised land, I'm planning on having; a few small pieces of driftwood hanging over the ledge and some into the water, for the archer fish to shoot bugs of. Some small plants like grass, moss or some plants from a specific region if i choose to stick to a specific biotope. Would plants work, what would be the pros and cons and what plants would look good?

5. Also, I'm going to have a go at growing some mangroves. I don't know how successful it will be, but I may as well give it a go. I was thinking that if I tried growing them in the dry land, the roots might push out the perspex? Or I could try growing them fully submerged.

Well thats all the questions for now LOL! Oh and, Do you think this could work at all or am I just wasting my time? Any Suggestions would be great!

Thank you for taking the time to read ALL of this
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Post by kass »

I think you will need a much larger tank for 2 F8s and some archer fish.

I'm not too sure what perspex is, is it like plexiglass or acrylic?
I built a paludarium last summer. Here's a link to the thread.
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Post by Milet »

I'm not sure how to explain perspex, its probably called something else coz i live in New Zealand. Probably acrylic.

Well Forget the idea about adding the Archerfish for now then, just for the puffers.

Any Ideas? I think my main problem will be creating a waterfall with the flow from my Fluval 404, the outputs pretty strong, will probably have too slow it down by directing it into a bunch of rocks or a decorated PVC tunnel?
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Anyone got more tips?
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Post by Nick »

Only that creating a waterfall in a brackish tank is going to create so much salt creep it will likely destroy the entire aesthetic effect you are going for.
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okay thanks for that nick, ill completly flag the waterfall for the brackish tank then :)
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Post by PuffTheMagicFishy »

You could maybe do a freshwater paludarium. Less salt to clean, more variety of things to put in it. You could have epiphytic plants and amphibians. I just think the paludarium lends it self, practically and aesthetically, to freshwater more than brackish water.
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Post by kass »

Go for some mudskippers. You wont be disapointed... they're almost as cool as puffers..if not equal. I have mine at around 1.005 and haven't noticed any salt creep at all.
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Re: Advice on my Paludarium Plans

Post by brh5073 »

this is what i did. my next paludarium is going to be soooo much better but i like my current set up for my first attempt. i used pvc pipes painted with krylon spray paint to hold up a piece of plexiglass. i dont know what i used for the lip of the plexi glass but i found it at a beer distributor that i think was used for shelving. ill never find it again so ill have to find something else to hold the sand up. my mudskipper is very happy and never went in the water before i got the puffer so its not that he doesnt go in because of the puffer

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Re: Advice on my Paludarium Plans

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Silicone sealant is not long-lasting in bonding plastics, especially if bridging to glass.

Plastic bonding generally requires solvents for durability.
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