The last 4-5 days, I've noticed this white stuff on her.... Thinking it was ich, I've been treating with Ruby Reef. This morning, I looked at her and there's this cloudy white film... almost powdery looking stuff covering her that if she makes a quick move comes off. (like a powder). It really is unattractive. I've tried to take pictures, but they do no justice to what I can see. One of her eyes is also pretty cloudy. She doesn't seem lethargic, and she ate fine last night. Does this sound like anything familiar? Is there anything I can buy to help save her?
Porcupine-- White film/dust
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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Porcupine-- White film/dust
I've had a porcupine puffer for a few months now, and she's been great. (I call her a girl, but who knows)
Bubbles- her name- eats well -very well- and has a great personality.
The last 4-5 days, I've noticed this white stuff on her.... Thinking it was ich, I've been treating with Ruby Reef. This morning, I looked at her and there's this cloudy white film... almost powdery looking stuff covering her that if she makes a quick move comes off. (like a powder). It really is unattractive. I've tried to take pictures, but they do no justice to what I can see. One of her eyes is also pretty cloudy. She doesn't seem lethargic, and she ate fine last night. Does this sound like anything familiar? Is there anything I can buy to help save her?
The last 4-5 days, I've noticed this white stuff on her.... Thinking it was ich, I've been treating with Ruby Reef. This morning, I looked at her and there's this cloudy white film... almost powdery looking stuff covering her that if she makes a quick move comes off. (like a powder). It really is unattractive. I've tried to take pictures, but they do no justice to what I can see. One of her eyes is also pretty cloudy. She doesn't seem lethargic, and she ate fine last night. Does this sound like anything familiar? Is there anything I can buy to help save her?
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Moved to hospital forum.
We need more information such as water parameters, tank size, tankmates, how long has the tank been set up, etc.
We need more information such as water parameters, tank size, tankmates, how long has the tank been set up, etc.
Tina
Puffers: Auriglobus silus x1, Tetraodon travancoricus x1, Tetraodon turgidus x1, Tetraodon miurus x1, Tetraodon nigroviridis x2, Tetraodon baileyi x2, Tetraodon lineatus x1, Tetraodon palembangensis x1
Puffers: Auriglobus silus x1, Tetraodon travancoricus x1, Tetraodon turgidus x1, Tetraodon miurus x1, Tetraodon nigroviridis x2, Tetraodon baileyi x2, Tetraodon lineatus x1, Tetraodon palembangensis x1
Here are some Q's I was answering on another forum:
1. What are the water parameters - specifics.
- Im not positive as I'm at work right now, but the last time we
tested - about a week ago- they were pretty good... I can get
exacts tonight.
2. What size tank is the puffer in?
- 55G
3. What tank mates? Any new additions?
-Just a yellow tail damsel and a Jewel Damsel. (was hoping for
those guys to be food since they were bullies in my other tank.)
4. Do you quarantine?.
- I haven't taken her out as the worst Ive seen it is this morning.
5. What substrate?
- I have the CaribSea Seaflor Special Grade Reef Sand.
6. Are there spots or a dusting? Does the film disappear and reappear?
- At first the whiteness looked like Ich, so thats what i treated for,
but this morning, it was kind of dusting off of her.
7. How is the puffer breathing - fasters, gasping?
- she didn't seem to be breathing irregular, but her stomach looked a
SLIGHT bloated. (not at a 'puff' just a little fuller)
1. What are the water parameters - specifics.
- Im not positive as I'm at work right now, but the last time we
tested - about a week ago- they were pretty good... I can get
exacts tonight.
2. What size tank is the puffer in?
- 55G
3. What tank mates? Any new additions?
-Just a yellow tail damsel and a Jewel Damsel. (was hoping for
those guys to be food since they were bullies in my other tank.)
4. Do you quarantine?.
- I haven't taken her out as the worst Ive seen it is this morning.
5. What substrate?
- I have the CaribSea Seaflor Special Grade Reef Sand.
6. Are there spots or a dusting? Does the film disappear and reappear?
- At first the whiteness looked like Ich, so thats what i treated for,
but this morning, it was kind of dusting off of her.
7. How is the puffer breathing - fasters, gasping?
- she didn't seem to be breathing irregular, but her stomach looked a
SLIGHT bloated. (not at a 'puff' just a little fuller)
- Pufferpunk
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Your puffer has velvet disease & needs copper treatment ASAP, as it is a fast killer. Be extremely careful to dose as instructed.
I'm PMing Puffer Queen, so she can respond with more details.
I'm PMing Puffer Queen, so she can respond with more details.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
would this be a good treatment? or do you know of any that are better?
http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewItem. ... uct=PP2111
http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewItem. ... uct=PP2111
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Metronidazole is not been proven to be effective against velvet.
If you read the product it claims to attack the free swimming phase of the parasite.....what about the cyst stage and even more important the active feeding stage of the parasite that is severly affecting the puffer.
Copper is the only proven treatment against velvet.
Start seachem cupramine in a bare bottom tank with increased aeration immediately.
Monitor copper levels with the Salifert or Seachem test kit.
Monitor other water parameters at least daily and be prepared to intervene with water changes/buffer, etc.
If you read the product it claims to attack the free swimming phase of the parasite.....what about the cyst stage and even more important the active feeding stage of the parasite that is severly affecting the puffer.
Copper is the only proven treatment against velvet.
Start seachem cupramine in a bare bottom tank with increased aeration immediately.
Monitor copper levels with the Salifert or Seachem test kit.
Monitor other water parameters at least daily and be prepared to intervene with water changes/buffer, etc.
Kelly
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T miurus
A modestus
T biocellatus
C valentini
C coranata
C papuan
C lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
T niphobles - Location (country): USA, Greenville, SC
- Location: Greenville, SC
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