I've got:
130gal tank
lotso other fish ... never had ich
Ordered fish from AquariumFish.net ... hermit crabs, 2 lobster, and
Got 3 puffers (2 figure 8s, and a small green spotted puffer).
http://www.aquariumfish.net/images_01/g ... r_w180.jpg
One of the figure 8s today is lethargic, barely moving.
I've read that I should raise water temp ... now @ 80F.
I've read that I should add salt to levels of 2-3tablespoons per 5 gal
I've read that I should go up to 86F
Will that kill the rest of the fish?
Thanks!
130gal, many species, new puffers AND NOW ich
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
salt / temp analysis
By the way ... what do you ALL think of this site ...
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/ich.php
Understanding and Treating Ich or White Spot
by Shelli Wittig (aka Fishgal)
http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/ich.php
Understanding and Treating Ich or White Spot
by Shelli Wittig (aka Fishgal)
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Pufferpunk
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C coranata
C papuan
C lorteti
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burrfish
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Good article. Did you read the part on how to prevent it? Whever you buy new fish they need to be quarantined--ESPECIALLY, bought sight-unseen from an online store.
The puffers you have purchased, don't belong in a community FW tank Please read the GSP article in our library. GSPs belong in high-end brackish water & are extremely aggressive fin-nippers. F8s belong in low-end BW & can get quite nippy also.
As far as the ich, the treatment described here will work for any fish.
The puffers you have purchased, don't belong in a community FW tank Please read the GSP article in our library. GSPs belong in high-end brackish water & are extremely aggressive fin-nippers. F8s belong in low-end BW & can get quite nippy also.
As far as the ich, the treatment described here will work for any fish.
Last edited by Pufferpunk on Fri Apr 27, 2007 12:26 pm, edited 2 times in total.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Boxermom
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Raised heat and salt is a great cure for ich, but you don't mention anything in your post about the fish having ich. Lethargic and not moving isn't an indication of ich, its of something else like perhaps water quality issues. Ich looks like tiny round dots of salt on the fish.
What are your water parameters? Did you cycle the tank? If so, how? What other fish do you have in there? As PP said, puffers aren't good community fish and GSPs and F8s each have very different water requirements so they don't belong together.
What are your water parameters? Did you cycle the tank? If so, how? What other fish do you have in there? As PP said, puffers aren't good community fish and GSPs and F8s each have very different water requirements so they don't belong together.
Tina
Puffers: Auriglobus silus x1, Tetraodon travancoricus x1, Tetraodon turgidus x1, Tetraodon miurus x1, Tetraodon nigroviridis x2, Tetraodon baileyi x2, Tetraodon lineatus x1, Tetraodon palembangensis x1
Puffers: Auriglobus silus x1, Tetraodon travancoricus x1, Tetraodon turgidus x1, Tetraodon miurus x1, Tetraodon nigroviridis x2, Tetraodon baileyi x2, Tetraodon lineatus x1, Tetraodon palembangensis x1
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Pufferpunk
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T lineatus
T miurus
A modestus
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C coranata
C papuan
C lorteti
DPs
suvattii
burrfish
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Opps, missed that. They may not have ich at all.
Sorry if it seemed like I was rough on ya, it's that you did ask my opinion about that article.
Sorry if it seemed like I was rough on ya, it's that you did ask my opinion about that article.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"