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spinning puffer?

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this morning we found our puffer floating on the top with his tail sideways.. first thing i did was try to burp him since he can't swim downwards. we got a few air bubbles out now he is spinning on the bottom. right now we have a net on him to keep him from spinning so he can get his energy back.. anybody experience this or have suggestions? yesterday he was fine showing no abnormal signs. not sure how he ingested air we feed him on the bottom of the aquarium and he eats fresh clams.

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pH: 7
temp: 82F
sg: 1.005
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water stats? substrate, type of puffer, how long you have had the puffer. What are you feeding?
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Rocker wrote:water stats? substrate, type of puffer, how long you have had the puffer. What are you feeding?
55gallon
pH: 7
temp: 82F
sg: 1.005

substrate is rocks. puffer is Sabahensis. i've had him for a couple of months. he eats clams and snails. not constipated, saw him poop.
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A bad clam perhaps, maybe some constipation as well or maybe an inflamed swim bladder.
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Hilly wrote:A bad clam perhaps, maybe some constipation as well or maybe an inflamed swim bladder.
he isn't constipated, i saw him poop. what can you do for an inflamed swim bladder?
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water stats?
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Rocker wrote:water stats?
what stats do you want? i already posted everything but nitrate and nitrite. zeros and 10.
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is the nitrite 10 and nitrate 0 or is it the other way round? Do you also know the ammonia reading?
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Hilly wrote:is the nitrite 10 and nitrate 0 or is it the other way round? Do you also know the ammonia reading?
nitrite and ammonia are 0.
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Well if he's pooping he might still have some more to get rid of, if it is an inflamed swim bladder you could add some epsom salt to the tank to see if that reduces the swelling. I would be inclined to do a big water change just incase something else is off with the water that our limited tests cant check for.
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What kind of test did you use. Those strips to dip into the water, or the tests where you use drops of fluids?
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misty dawn wrote:
Rocker wrote:water stats?
what stats do you want? i already posted everything but nitrate and nitrite. zeros and 10.
We require

Ammonia readings
Nitrite readings
Nitrate readings at he very least

More details on how long the tank has been set up and how long it has been running would help.
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Post by misty dawn »

drops.
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Are the test kits in date.
When did you last do a water change?
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yes the test kits are new and are in date. water change two days ago. the levels haven't changed at all since he has been in there. i don't think it is that. he had air bubbles in him when i burped him this morning.
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1x Red Tailed Boa, 1x Albino King Snake, 1x Ball Python, 1x Cherry Footed Tortoise, 1x Albino Pac Man Frog

1x Green Austrailian Mustached Parrot

1x Spoiled Rat, 2x Kitties
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