however about 4 days ago i noticed one of my baby gsp's was turning black did some research found out they do that now and then then turn back in a couple hours.the next day he was covered in black head to tail i mean real black. so i hospital tanked him asap to avoid any thing to my other little guy.he doesnt swim alot or eat anything and thats what worries me most he was always first to the glass at 4 and 12 pm every day for his snails or shrimp.my other dude still appears healthy. so im wondering what this could be ive started them 2 months ago in a cycled (old 20g community about 6 months old when they went in) all levels are 0 (ammonia, nitrate, nitrites)at about 1.002-1.003 gravity Ph is good holding at around 8.0-8.2 respectivly my tap is a little hard around 200 ppm. i am VERY religious on my water changes 25% weekly every thursday night. thats all i got puffers are still pretty new for me, but i love em plz help i might cry thnx guyssick GSP
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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cassiusclay
- Puffer Fry
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sick GSP
hey guys new here and to puffers in general loving both tbh!!! however about 4 days ago i noticed one of my baby gsp's was turning black did some research found out they do that now and then then turn back in a couple hours.the next day he was covered in black head to tail i mean real black. so i hospital tanked him asap to avoid any thing to my other little guy.he doesnt swim alot or eat anything and thats what worries me most he was always first to the glass at 4 and 12 pm every day for his snails or shrimp.my other dude still appears healthy. so im wondering what this could be ive started them 2 months ago in a cycled (old 20g community about 6 months old when they went in) all levels are 0 (ammonia, nitrate, nitrites)at about 1.002-1.003 gravity Ph is good holding at around 8.0-8.2 respectivly my tap is a little hard around 200 ppm. i am VERY religious on my water changes 25% weekly every thursday night. thats all i got puffers are still pretty new for me, but i love em plz help i might cry thnx guys
however about 4 days ago i noticed one of my baby gsp's was turning black did some research found out they do that now and then then turn back in a couple hours.the next day he was covered in black head to tail i mean real black. so i hospital tanked him asap to avoid any thing to my other little guy.he doesnt swim alot or eat anything and thats what worries me most he was always first to the glass at 4 and 12 pm every day for his snails or shrimp.my other dude still appears healthy. so im wondering what this could be ive started them 2 months ago in a cycled (old 20g community about 6 months old when they went in) all levels are 0 (ammonia, nitrate, nitrites)at about 1.002-1.003 gravity Ph is good holding at around 8.0-8.2 respectivly my tap is a little hard around 200 ppm. i am VERY religious on my water changes 25% weekly every thursday night. thats all i got puffers are still pretty new for me, but i love em plz help i might cry thnx guys
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drjuzz
- Dwarf Puffer
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Have a look at the bottom of the hospital tank and see if you can see any Poop lying on the bottom, check if is looks stringy or like pellets? (if it is stringy then good chance he has internal parasites)
Have you noticed any of the following signs ?
* wasting away - often gradually
* frantic for food (more than usual of course)
* red or white worms being purged from the anus
* loss of appetite
Read the following under the Puffer library:
http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/lib ... t/#more-75
Good Luck!
Have you noticed any of the following signs ?
* wasting away - often gradually
* frantic for food (more than usual of course)
* red or white worms being purged from the anus
* loss of appetite
Read the following under the Puffer library:
http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/lib ... t/#more-75
Good Luck!
23G - 1 x Green Spotted Puppy (Shermy) & 1x Blue spotted African Mudskipper, Periopthalmus barbarus (Blinky)
60 +- Snails
20 x Juggling Balls
3 x Juggling Clubs
1 X 3 1/2 inch Juliet live steam locomotive.
1 x 24' Muni cycle (mountain Uni cycle)
Lots Of Fun!
60 +- Snails
20 x Juggling Balls
3 x Juggling Clubs
1 X 3 1/2 inch Juliet live steam locomotive.
1 x 24' Muni cycle (mountain Uni cycle)
Lots Of Fun!
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cassiusclay
- Puffer Fry
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Boxermom
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Anyone that has been in a tank with him needs to be treated. Gel-Tek and Prazi-Pro work best IME. You need to soak their food in it, not just treat the water. They need to ingest the medication.
Tina
Puffers: Auriglobus silus x1, Tetraodon travancoricus x1, Tetraodon turgidus x1, Tetraodon miurus x1, Tetraodon nigroviridis x2, Tetraodon baileyi x2, Tetraodon lineatus x1, Tetraodon palembangensis x1
Puffers: Auriglobus silus x1, Tetraodon travancoricus x1, Tetraodon turgidus x1, Tetraodon miurus x1, Tetraodon nigroviridis x2, Tetraodon baileyi x2, Tetraodon lineatus x1, Tetraodon palembangensis x1
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cassiusclay
- Puffer Fry
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im still treating my other guy and will get him a new friend or 2 in a few weeks thanks for all the help any way guys-
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