Some advice needed about baileyi puffers

Freshy · Post by **Freshy** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 6:41 am

bro..what vitamin u using? got use garlic guard?

bsplenden · Post by **bsplenden** » Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:27 am

I'm using Sera fishtamin.

bsplenden · Post by **bsplenden** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:19 am

And after some time, I've got a new problem.
I don't know if this is a problem at all... But this puffer is real grumpy...

It attacks anything and everything. Can be my finger, its reflection, the turtle in another tank, etc.
And sometimes when it gets real angry, it puffs up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGvf6Ikz8qE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0prmKZ62gc

Above are 2 videos of the puffer puffing. Sometimes it can puff and deflate for up to 10 mins. Sometimes it doesn't do it for a couple of days. I've also noticed that it usually puffs and gets angry on the 2nd to 3rd day of "non-feeding days".

Is all this alright? I've read that puffers only puff themselves when they are really stressed.

Boxermom · Post by **Boxermom** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:41 am

Sometimes they puff for no apparent reason, too.

Troender · Post by **Troender** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:04 am

It looks like he's seeing his own reflection on the glass, and thinks it's another puffer. And that could most definitely piss him off. Is the background blue as it seems in the picture? I know that light colors can give more reflection for the fish than dark. But I don't think blue would give too much reflection.
And, yes, they can puff when they are angry too.

Troender · Post by **Troender** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:11 am

BTW, have you made any changes to the tank lately? My Hufflepuff can easily gets really grumpy when things changes. At that point I would keep my fingers far away from him!

He has tried to bite me through the glass. He also gets grumpy if I feed him something he doesn't think is food. And he tried to bite his way out of the plastic bag when I bought him. Besides being the biggest puffer I have, he is also the most aggressive.
It seems to me that there's something annoying your puffer. When did this grumpiness start? What happened before this started?

bsplenden · Post by **bsplenden** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:11 am

Yeah... I added the blue background just a few days back. And added the red substrate too. I can see a faint reflection on the blue background.

But it doesn't puff when it's feeding day.

But it seems to be getting better today. It only "flared" at its reflection and did not puff up.

Boxermom · Post by **Boxermom** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:44 am

There seems to be quite a bit of anecdotal evidence suggesting that puffers can see colors and one of the colors they object to most strenuously is the color red. Perhaps he doesn't appreciate the red substrate that has been added.

messy_da_legend · Post by **messy_da_legend** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:35 pm

Thats one psycho baileyi! I'm lucky if I see mine move apart from breathing after 10am. Seems to beg until then, and after that goes under his plants and sleeps. Maybe its that his tank is fairly bare?

messy_da_legend · Post by **messy_da_legend** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 1:42 pm

There seems to be quite a bit of anecdotal evidence suggesting that puffers can see colors and one of the colors they object to most strenuously is the color red. Perhaps he doesn't appreciate the red substrate that has been added.

Doesn't Pufferpunk keep her miurus with red substrate? Wonder if she's noticed anything.........

Boxermom · Post by **Boxermom** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:35 pm

Dunno, but I think its a personal thing. None of my other puffers care what color I wear, but if I go anywhere near my GSP's tank wearing pink, he goes ballistic.

bsplenden · Post by **bsplenden** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:13 am

messy_da_legend wrote:Thats one psycho baileyi! I'm lucky if I see mine move apart from breathing after 10am. Seems to beg until then, and after that goes under his plants and sleeps. Maybe its that his tank is fairly bare?

Yeah... I've to agree that his tank is really bare. I'm not doing a planted tank cos they live in a rocky environment. Maybe just a couple of hardy plants like java ferns.

I'm still thinking and planning on the scaping of the tank.

Mine goes crazy seeing anything. Maybe it's just hungry and that makes it angry.
Here's a vid of me playing with it... Using my fingers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMP9OPt0QJE

And it's a real hungry puffer. Here's another vid of it eating pellets. Now I've got totally no problem with it's diet as it eats anything and everything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-K0M-Khisw

Woland · Post by **Woland** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:49 am

I keep mine in a heavily decorated tank, and I very rarely see her.
She prefers to hide in her cave at ALL times...

Rocker · Post by **Rocker** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:11 am

Woland wrote:I keep mine in a heavily decorated tank, and I very rarely see her.
She prefers to hide in her cave at ALL times...

Mine exactly

Boxermom · Post by **Boxermom** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:10 am

Yup, I rarely see mine unless they are begging for food. They are always hiding in the foliage or, in Lil's case, inside the branch of an artificial driftwood, her favorite hidey hole. IMO, a very heavily decorated tank is vital for their well-being and happiness.

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