F8 Puffer Fish - White Fungus Growth

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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.

1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Post by check »

One more sad update. Our second F8 puffer died today. I really want to thank you for your help in trying to save them.

I am pretty devastated right now - and actually have been since this happened. I HATE knowing my ignorance caused these fish to go through this.

Our two F8s will be missed :(

We are now 100% focused on ensuring our GSPs live a long and happy life. New tank (this weekend), new knowledge and new friends here.

Thank you once again from the bottom of my heart for your support during this experience.
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Post by Boxermom »

Really? Did you try calling or emailing them? I'm very surprised since they have a Canadian distribution center now.
Tina

Puffers: Auriglobus silus x1, Tetraodon travancoricus x1, Tetraodon turgidus x1, Tetraodon miurus x1, Tetraodon nigroviridis x2, Tetraodon baileyi x2, Tetraodon lineatus x1, Tetraodon palembangensis x1
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Post by Boxermom »

Ok, try this place. They sell Biospira, they ship stuff to Canada (not sure which stuff, but stuff) and have a good reputation from others I've seen who have used them.

http://www.fishstoretn.com/
Tina

Puffers: Auriglobus silus x1, Tetraodon travancoricus x1, Tetraodon turgidus x1, Tetraodon miurus x1, Tetraodon nigroviridis x2, Tetraodon baileyi x2, Tetraodon lineatus x1, Tetraodon palembangensis x1
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Post by check »

Tried there first :/ Their shopping cart is disabled now and their support mailbox is full. Might they have gone under?
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Post by Ting »

I'm glad you are getting the right help for your poor fishies!

I was wondering? Did you ever call the fish shop back and give them a piece of your mind? Arm yourself with as much new information on GSPs and F8s as you can and then please please educate these stupid people!

I'd also reccomend just reading and reading and reading everything you possibly can about the fish while waiting for the new tank. I did a lot of reading, for years, before I felt ready to start keeping puffers and your fish are going to eventually need a full marine tank. I think you should really know what that involves first while there may still be a chance to return the fish to the store.

Best of luck in whatever you do for your fish :)
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Hmmm.. well I'm out of ideas on where to find Biospira for ya. :( But since you can't find any, just stick with the daily water changes and using the Prime.
Tina

Puffers: Auriglobus silus x1, Tetraodon travancoricus x1, Tetraodon turgidus x1, Tetraodon miurus x1, Tetraodon nigroviridis x2, Tetraodon baileyi x2, Tetraodon lineatus x1, Tetraodon palembangensis x1
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Post by andregurov »

While Biospira is a cycling agent par excellence, have you considered using Stability (manufactured by Seachem)? I have gotten excellent results using this as a bacterial cycling agent, and it doesn't require refrigeration (making it far easier to find).

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Post by check »

Ting: I have not called them yet. I wanted to keep productive and focused until this was over. I get crickets from there every two weeks for my Lizard so I plan on informing them of this situation and what impact it has had on us. I plan on reading everything I can now. I have already read a lot. I love information!

Boxermom - Thanks again so much for your help. I REALLY appreciate everything you have done for us. It just appears that the infection hit too hard too fast to save our fish :/ Hopefully this situation will help others in the future.

andregurov - I will read up on Stability now. I am very new to this so this is the first time I have heard of it. I do plan on continuing with Boxermom's advice for the time being though.

Thanks again to this community for your help and support.
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Post by Boxermom »

I'm sorry to hear that, check. :(

Stability doesn't do much, if anything, to cycle a tank. Anything that does not require refrigeration contains dead bacteria that is useless for cycling a tank. Don't bother wasting your money on it.
Tina

Puffers: Auriglobus silus x1, Tetraodon travancoricus x1, Tetraodon turgidus x1, Tetraodon miurus x1, Tetraodon nigroviridis x2, Tetraodon baileyi x2, Tetraodon lineatus x1, Tetraodon palembangensis x1
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