Treating ich in low end BW - question about article above

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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.

1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Post by Pufferpunk »

Great job! You can lower the heat some, in a few days, but keep the heat up higher for 21 more days.
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Post by Bred »

21 days is a bit excessive in my view... Certainly, better safe than sorry, but I think that's being unnecessarily safe--but please correct me if I'm wrong!

Ich won't stay encysted longer than 4 or 5 days at that temperature. When they hatch into tomites the salt almost guarantees that they will perish all but immediately. In order to get through another life cycle, the tomites would need to attach to a host--which is clearly visible to the naked eye, remember. So if the fish have no visible ick, keep the heat up and salt in the tank for 7 days; by then you should be in the clear. Gradually bring the temp back down, ditto for salt levels.
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Post by Bred »

bred wrote:ditto for salt levels.
unless of course this is a brackish tank... silly bred.
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Post by Jayhawk »

Dougal's a figure 8, so he's in very light brackish now (1.003 with my last water change). He was in hard FW at the LFS, so I'm moving him up slowly.

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