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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.

1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.

While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Jeni,
Continue using it if it works for you - just be careful with its use in saltwater fish. Freshwater use is fine.

I have found adding airstones, increased aeration creates more of a "protein skimmer effect" - lots of "soap suds" at the surface.
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Post by Pufferpunk »

Well, you're the expert, when it comes to SW...

Did you get my PM?
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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On the medication, I should soak his food with it?

Also, what dose should he get, this is what I am stuck on.

He looks better today, he is up and swimming. Not like the past two days where he has been at the bottom of the tank.
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Did you ask the vet? I haven't had to treat IPs, since they were still selling Discomed. I'm glad he's feeling better. Did you start the hypo? FW dip?
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Yes I asked the vet, she has never had to give medication to a fish so she is not too sure on how much.

I started the hypo, the ich is much better.

He ate for the fist time yesterday, a very small chunk of clam that I soaked in Zoe and silicon. No poop yet that I know of.

How often should I dose the Melafix?

When I do give him medication should I just soak his food in it?

Thanks!
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When I dose melafix in a QT tank I usually do daily large water changes and dose melafix every other day.
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Post by Pufferpunk »

I'd dose it after each WC. As Kelly has stated, keep an eye on any breathing problems using it & be sure to add an airstone or 2. I am more familiar with using it for FW/BW fish.
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Post by EvilTinkerbell »

Hey guys, his eyes still look very cloudy - what is the best think for this?

I am adding th Melafix every other day and water changes between that.

What else do you recommend?
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I would treat with antibiotics - via bath or antibiotic laced food (if you can target feed the puffer to ensure adequate dosing).
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What anti-biotics should he get, my vet will give me anything I just have to let her know what I need.
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Are you wanting to give via bath, food or injection?

Many of the antibiotics - minocycline (mardel's maracyn-2, kanamycin & nitrofurazone containing products ) are available at LFS and on-line vendors. These are usually not available through a vet.

Enrofloxacin is only obtained through a vet and is expensive. I prefer oral or injection due to the expense of the drug.
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Post by EvilTinkerbell »

what ever would work the best. He likes to eat so I can soak his food in it.

Today when I got home the wrasse and the puffer are both on the bottom, very heavy breathing - doing a water change, i added the melafix last night and I don't think they like it.

Let me know if you have any suggestions.

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Post by Pufferpunk »

Are you using airstones in there? If the Melafix isn't working & they're having trouble breathing, even w/airstones, maybe you should stop using it. The antibiotic PQ recommends should take care of that.

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What are you using to treat the ich - hyposalinity?

What is your salinity?
What is your pH, ammonia & nitrite?
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Post by EvilTinkerbell »

Treating ich with hypo - sal at 1.010

pH 8.2 - 8.3

Nitri - nitra - Amon 0.00
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