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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.

2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.

3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)

4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.

5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.

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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.

Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Post by buzz »

ok came home today and my gsp was sitting at the bottom of my tank all puffed up and has been that way since i got home, what do i need to do about it??????
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Post by Pufferpunk »

There's info in the GSP article I wrote, in The Library.
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Post by RTR »

If he is on the bottom of the tank, back up and belly down, he is puffed with water and it is likely stress. Is someone picking on the puffer? Are the water's ammonia and nitrite titers both at zero, and nitrate <25ppm?
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Post by Pamela »

Did you do the de-puffing manoevre?
How is he today?
You have to get that tank sorted out - you've got major problems.
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Post by buzz »

yea i did the depuffing thing and he seemed to be alright for a while but then i noticed that he had a bulge in his stomach and the next morning he was dead, i was very saddened especially after all the fish i got rid of to satisfy him, and another thing the smaller one seems perfectly healthy but hasnt eaten in a long while, hes not skinny but not plump either, any suggestions, is this an internal parasite?
thanx
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Post by Pamela »

Sorry for your loss, I know you've put a lot of effort in.
What've you got in the tank now?
I think he had such a rough time that it proved too much for him, so let's try to save the remaining one.
Give us tank params and how long it's been since he last ate.
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Post by buzz »

nitrites and ammonia are 0 nitrate is between 5 and 10 ppm pH is just above 8 sg is 1.006 and rising by .002 every week as not to kill the bacteria,there are currently 4 mollies and the gsp who is about an inch if that, he has eaten very sparingly since i got him about a month ago, but just in the beginning, i havent seen him eat anything after the first 2 or 3 days. he swims around the tank for the most part, usually right on the bottom, but there are times when he stays mainly stationary on the bottom or swims about the tank on various levels. lately since the other died, i have noticed that his coloring hasnt been nearly as bright and is more brownish than green, as i mentioned before he isnt too burly but not ungodly skinny either,
please send back soon
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Post by Pamela »

Remind me how big the tank is.
Could the mollies be picking on him? Really, he needs to be on his own. He must be eating a little, as a month for a little fish is a long time with no food.
Have you tried the garlic juice?
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Post by Pamela »

Any update? How's he doing?
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Post by buzz »

the mollies were picking on him and he couldnt take the stress, plus my hydrometer was busted and the salt wasnt as high as i thought it was it turned out to only be at 1.002 when it said it was at 1.008 so in a combination of all of that the little guy didnt make it, i came home one day and he was swimmin in the big puffer tank in the sky, i have since upgraded my tank taking out all of those stupid mollies and freshwater fish doing a good cleaning so the tank is cleaner than anything rearranged everything, added some salt over time and have slowly added some more fish after making sure my parameters were adequate, i have restarted my tank with a small figure 8 and 3 monos they are all very healthy zooming around my tank for almost a week now
write back if you have anything you think i should be aware of
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Post by Pufferpunk »

I would not keep a puffer w/monos. Are you aware that they will grow to 1' & need a huge tank eventually?
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Post by YBeNormal »

He was informed by RTR in this thread. You can lead a horse to water... :roll:
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Post by buzz »

theyre tiny and am getting a bigger tank for the 3 of them as soon as they get larger, theyre less than an inch now
would that be ok, if not ill bring them back
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Post by Pufferpunk »

You need to consider that they should live in a school (5-6, or more). This would require a 300+ gal tank.

It would help us to know--how old are you?
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