I have a F8 which a few days ago was spinning like a bullet, or barrel roll.
It would bump into objects as it did so. It seemed unintentional.
This was in the evening and although I didn't time it must have went on for an hour. It was sad to watch and I was sure it would be dead by morning.
The next day it seemed normal. Since then it has seemed normal and has been eating well, until today when it started spinning again.
Color is good. Belly is white and neither bloated, or concave.
The tank is a 20gal with the only tankmate an Orange Chromide, which appears healthy.
Water changes are 50% every 2 weeks.
Feed is frozen krill and an occasional snail.
Marine salt at 1.008
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 10
PH 8
The tank is well mature at ~2 years.
Any ideas and assistance appreciated.
Possibly sick, spinning F8
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Wow, that is definately strange.
Water changes are your first step, there's always a chance something is getting in the water (hair spray, cleaning product, air freshener?) or that some level is off. Generally we suggest doing 50% changes every week, but any time you see a problem like this doing them more often is definately better.
It could be a swim bladder issue starting up, or possibly some sort of constipation that is throwing off his swim bladder.
Water changes are your first step, there's always a chance something is getting in the water (hair spray, cleaning product, air freshener?) or that some level is off. Generally we suggest doing 50% changes every week, but any time you see a problem like this doing them more often is definately better.
It could be a swim bladder issue starting up, or possibly some sort of constipation that is throwing off his swim bladder.
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Sounds a lot like what was happening to my GSP: http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/vie ... php?t=7275
There definitely are similarities.Phaedrus wrote:Sounds a lot like what was happening to my GSP: http://www.thepufferforum.com/forum/vie ... php?t=7275
Now he is hiding and breathing hard. It's much like the first time.
Hopefully the "event" has passed and this is recuperation, but it's just wait and see.
If a similar recovery happens I'll try some greens in the diet.
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I'm sorry. I'm starting to believe that fish also have things like epilepsy and other problems that humans get. Wouldn't be all that surprising really, dogs and cats do.
I'm starting to believe that fish also have things like epilepsy and other problems that humans get. Wouldn't be all that surprising really, dogs and cats do.Tina
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