One of my fish took a turn for the worse this morning...
I had noticed white spots on both of them last week and went to my LFS to get some Ich treatment. I was buying Pimafix when he strongly recommended I use Kent RXP instead. I've used it twice the spots have gone but the big on is breathing really heavily and staying at the top so its evident he still has Ich. He ate fine last night but has stopped eating and is slowly darkening. SO I have started to up the heat so far from 78 to 80, changed 25% of the water and put in an extra Air Stone
Ammonia .25 Nitrate 30 Nitrite .5 PH 8.2 SG 1.021
1) Stay with the Kent RXP? (I know yall dont like the pepper based treatment) or go pick up something else or just rely on heat and salinity
2) Is their anything else I can get or do to help him pull through?
Yet another question about Ich...
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Boxermom
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He's not stopped eating and started darkening and having a hard time breathing from the ick, its from the ammonia and nitrite poisoning most likely. That needs to be taken care of ASAP.
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Water change and Prime to detoxify them, IMO. ANY reading for either ammonia or nitrite is bad. They need to be at zero.
Did you cycle the tank?
Did you cycle the tank?
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Not likely nitrite poisoning in that SG. Nitrite is effectively non-toxic in saltwater.
But the ammonia is even MORE toxic - and both figures are indicative aof a problem with filtration.
I don't think pepper OR tea tree oil is going to do the trick here... I would recommend quarantining the fish and treating by increasing the temperature and reducing the salt content.
But the ammonia is even MORE toxic - and both figures are indicative aof a problem with filtration.
I don't think pepper OR tea tree oil is going to do the trick here... I would recommend quarantining the fish and treating by increasing the temperature and reducing the salt content.
yeah thats what ive started doing. I have another tank im thinking of using to house him in while i figure out why the ammonia and nitrites are coming back but currently its housing snails and i dont have anywhere to put them.. Maybe i jump to the ick conclusion to soon? I dunno it weird cause i have two in their and the big one has been dark and breathing heavy but the little one has been fine the whole time. After the water change their both acting normal and even ate so im thinking it was just the ammonia?
I dont know where the ammonia is coming from. Its not a new tank. AquaClear 50 but no live rock yet (im kinda apprehensive about that and plants still i dont think i know enough) I though they had it because shortly after i brought them home a couple white spots appeared on them but they weren't exactly big enough to be "a grain of salt" so...
It could be very possible that boxer mom was right and its just the ammonia and nitrites that were hurting them. When i was adding salt to get it up to brackish I increased it to fast and probably crashed the tank... So for now its water changes daily and im going to try to get some some bio-spira
It could be very possible that boxer mom was right and its just the ammonia and nitrites that were hurting them. When i was adding salt to get it up to brackish I increased it to fast and probably crashed the tank... So for now its water changes daily and im going to try to get some some bio-spira
yeah the problem is i go to school in the middle of Kansas and pretty much our local fish store sucks. to put it bluntly. So i may have to go to Kansas City to find Bio-Spira would it need to be kept cold on the 2 hr drive back or can it last that long?
Assuming Bio-Spira is in fact what i need. Feel free to tell me if im dumb
Assuming Bio-Spira is in fact what i need. Feel free to tell me if im dumb
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Biospira should work. Make sure its the marine variety and not the freshwater kind. It should be fine for the trip home as long as it doesn't get heated up. Take some newspaper with you and wrap it up well in the newspaper, that will help keep it cool, as will a small cooler if you have one.
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Why are folks so insistant on putting their juvie GSPs in SW? The purpose of getting them into SW is so we can add LR & a skimmer. Otherwise, save on salt & keep it mid-range BW, till they're adults. Juvie GSPs are rarely found in SW.
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