Figure Eight with sacs

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Karen
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Figure Eight with sacs

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I purchased two figure eights last Saturday (four days ago). They didn't appear to have any marks at the fish store that we saw, but by the time we got home I had noticed a small abrasion on one - it kind of looked like a bit of a pimple. I thought it might be from the netting at the store at first.

The state of the reddish, raised area didn't change until yesterday (Tuesday) when we woke up to find a cluster of clear, fluid(?)-filled sacs hanging from the red area. The raised pimply looking part was gone and replaced by these.

This is the best photo I could get of "her" last night. You can see the sacs in the mid-belly region.

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This morning most of the sacs had burst, leaving behind one. By this evening, a new batch started to grow. This is a photo from about 20 minutes ago (it was the best I could get from the wrong side).

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Parameters are good - salinity 1.007, ammonia 0, nitrite 0, nitrate 10, pH 8.2.

She is in 31 US Gallons with one other figure-eight and a black molly. The tank is planted and has been running (starting with a fishless cycle, then the addition of the molly), since May 14, 2006 with almost zero fluctuation in parameters (except for a gradual increase in salinity). She is eating and very inquisitive.

Has anyone run into this before or know what it could be? Thank you for your help in advance.
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Do you have a quarantine tank available... I'm not sure what that is (either infection or parasites... I'll let someone with more experience try to identify what it is) but a QT/hospital tank may be necessary for treatment.
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Should have been in QT before adding to the main tank.
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Post by Karen »

I'm ashamed to admit that I do not have a QT. I live in a small apartment and as a result... space is at a premium.

I'm kicking myself for this though. I suppose it's past the time to find the space in this case? Even if I seeded a new QT with media from either of my other tanks it would likely be too unstable?
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Post by Pufferpunk »

You can instant cycle with Bio-Spira. There is an article on QT/Hospital tanks in our Library.

I'd be concerned that it might be contagious.
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