Upside down puffer

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Post by flsunshinejlh »

I have two new dwarf puffers. One of them stays upside down, cannot swim and only eats when i put a shrimp in his mouth. He has been like this for seven days. Please help!
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Post by Woland »

Water parameters?
How long has the tank been cycled?
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Post by flsunshinejlh »

All water parameters are high now except pH. I am trying to get all to acceptable levels. I just find it strange that one puffer is fine and the other is not. The tank had water replaced about a week before the puffers were introduced to the tank. We had them in there for a week before the one decided he likes to be upside down on his/her back.
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Post by RTR »

That fish has swallowed air in the act of puffing.

there are instructions for burping a puffer here:

http://www.thepufferforum.com/articles/ ... rpuff.html
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Post by Peregrine »

Can you "burp" a dwarf in the same manner?
I mean they are so small...is there not a risk of internal damage?
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Post by Rocker »

I don't think there will be a risk if you are gently. However the risk compared to leaving as he is is negligible.
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Post by Peregrine »

True...better to try and save it than doom it
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Post by flsunshinejlh »

Thanks for the advise I will give it a try. Hope it works, will let you know.
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Post by strike2 »

good luck, you should post some pics, I think it would go good with the linked article.
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Post by flsunshinejlh »

We have burped the little guy and he is still with us. :)

He is still upside down.

We have some pics but do not know how to post them.
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Post by strike2 »

He is GSP..and doesnt float...which means not too much air...I have no clue.
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Post by Phaedrus »

You can post the pictures to your photo gallery. http://www.thepufferforum.com/ug

EDIT - I see from your gallery that you already found it! That's great, but those aren't dwarf puffers. That's a Green Spotted Puffer! Check out the pufferpedia.
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Post by Rocker »

Yep GSP. Have you your water stats?
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Post by Boxermom »

Hope you got a big enough tank! You're going to need a much bigger one than if they were DPs.
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Post by flsunshinejlh »

Thanks for all the input. We do not have any water stats at this time. I will take a sample to our local pet store, then I can go from there and hopefully get her right side up.
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