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Water Parameters
PH 6.5
Nitrites 0
Nitrates 10
Ammonia 0
My Abei has a white patch on his back (No pics I don't have a digital camera on me) I changed the tank around a few days ago and since then he has spent a lot of time perched on top of a plant under the heater. I am now thinking he has burnt himself from resting in that position.
The patch itself is sort of oval in shape. I thought I had noticed a white patch on him yesterday but the way he positions himself when he moves it was difficult to see and on second glance he looked fine. Tonight I got a good look at it.
Do you think its a burn, should I treat with some Melafix and Pimafix to aid in the healing? or should I go with something else? I'm gonna do a 50-70% water change in the morning (it's 11pm here)
I have moved the plants away from the heater to discourage him from going near it. He is not displaying any signs of illness in fact he's quite active, no heavy breathing.
Your advice please.
I Think My Abei Has Burnt Himself???
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Well the top layer of skin is broken. and the wounded area is white, no redness though. I decided to do the water change tonight.
He was swimming around happily enough as I did the change, totally normal behaviour from him.
I will try and get a pic up tomorrow and also pick up some Melafix and Pimafix. I've got to wait for a sodding delivery from a courier before I can go anywhere. Typical.
He was swimming around happily enough as I did the change, totally normal behaviour from him.
I will try and get a pic up tomorrow and also pick up some Melafix and Pimafix. I've got to wait for a sodding delivery from a courier before I can go anywhere. Typical.
Hilly
I had a "burn" on a few of my irrubesco in the past.
What i presumed was a burn soon got bigger, and started to peel. After diagnosis, turned out to be a bacterial infection (which some of my irrubesco still get from time to time, I've had to treat this week.
My treatment is to dip in full strength SW for 20 minutes.
I'm not saying this is what yours has, I'm just saying when i thought my puffer had a burn, it was something more sinister.
Be careful.
What i presumed was a burn soon got bigger, and started to peel. After diagnosis, turned out to be a bacterial infection (which some of my irrubesco still get from time to time, I've had to treat this week.
My treatment is to dip in full strength SW for 20 minutes.
I'm not saying this is what yours has, I'm just saying when i thought my puffer had a burn, it was something more sinister.
Be careful.
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Ok here's what i've done so far
I've put a dose of Melafix in
Added an airstone to increase aeration.
Put a Heater Guard on.
I've took a few pics of the offending wound, sorry about the quality he wouldn't stop moving. Let me know what you think.
His appetite hasn't changed, popped some whole mussel in and it didn't make it to the floor.
Should I dose with Melafix for 7 days as is recommended on the bottle?
I've put a dose of Melafix in
Added an airstone to increase aeration.
Put a Heater Guard on.
I've took a few pics of the offending wound, sorry about the quality he wouldn't stop moving. Let me know what you think.
His appetite hasn't changed, popped some whole mussel in and it didn't make it to the floor.
Should I dose with Melafix for 7 days as is recommended on the bottle?
Hilly
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Some people think that melafix and pimafix can hinder a puffs breathing and do more harm than good. I don't think this is the case though. I think on some fish they may already be so weakened that they can't handle it, but if the fish is showing the first signs of an injury, and if they were relatively healthy to begin with, the fixes should be doing more good than harm.
That said, I don't usually follow the directions exactly when I use it. I start by raising the temp a couple degrees and adding an airstone. Then I do a 50% water change, followed by a full dose of melafix/pimafix. 24 hours later I do another 50% water change but don't add another dose for another 24 hours yet. I follow this for as many days as it takes to show improvement, but usually stop after 7 or 8 days and then just do daily 50% water changes for a couple days.
That said, I don't usually follow the directions exactly when I use it. I start by raising the temp a couple degrees and adding an airstone. Then I do a 50% water change, followed by a full dose of melafix/pimafix. 24 hours later I do another 50% water change but don't add another dose for another 24 hours yet. I follow this for as many days as it takes to show improvement, but usually stop after 7 or 8 days and then just do daily 50% water changes for a couple days.
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