Mandarin w/"Ich"

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Mandarin w/"Ich"

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I got a Mandarin from someone that had it in a well-established tank. By the evening of putting it into my main tank, it was showing SW "ich" spots, so I put it into QT. Did a FW dip & the spots were gone completely--never came back. The fish has been in QT for >5 wks, so I figured it was good to put back into the main tank. That was this morning & now it's got spots again! None of the other fish in that tank have ever had it. What's going on???
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Post by lisalisa »

These may seem like dumb Q's, but here goes:

Did you have lowered salinity in the QT? Are you sure that they aren't micro bubbles? This happened to me a few times.
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OK, dumb answer. It's been sand all this time... I found out at RC, that they have really thick slime coats & sand sticks to them a lot. I can't believe I kept him in QT all that time & dipped him!
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Post by Phaedrus »

I remember reading that about sand here in a thread about mandarins.
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That's why I asked about bubbles. Their slime coat is very thick and can trap them. Good thing it wasn't ick though!
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Yeah, s/he seems very healthy & eats "normal" food. She's the more fancy psychedelic one too.
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The bluer kind?
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Pictures!!
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It's this one:
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod ... id=554&N=0
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Very nice.

Although he's eating non-live foods, are you going to purchase and live pods or pod concentrates?
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Believe me, there has not been a pod-eater, in a very long time in that tank. Tons of live food in there for her too.
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That's awesome.
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Post by Fella »

I was under the impression that mandarins can't contract ich at all, because they produce a unique oil that repels it.
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I have seen them with ich, and I have responded to many emails at wetwebmedia about mandarins with ich. That's an inaccurate wives-tale.
I will say thought, that there are several fishes (clowns, dragonettes) that possess a very thick slime layer, making the more resistant to virulent cases of the parasite. This same slime is what caught the sand in this case.
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