Spot on Figure 8

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Spot on Figure 8

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There is a large dark spot on my figure 8 i have no idea what it is
im working on pics
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Please give some details on the tank, including:
tank size, tank mates, fish size, fish age, tank age, water parameters, including ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, pH, SG, as well as info on diet and any other info you can think of. Pictures will help immensely.
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I dont have tests for all that but, its a twenty gallon with 3 smaller figure 8s about a little less than an inch, but this one is about 1 and 1/2 inches which i got a few monthes ago as kindof a rescue mission, it was skin and bones the salinity is 1.005, i am have been feeding them krill, and i am 16 and i dont drive yet, so i fed them a shrimp from some human food right before i left i went on vacation for memorial day i will probably have pictures by about ten tonite
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I'd look into bumping up your tank size, a 20 gallon is insufficient. Look into a 55 gallon tank to house these guys. These species of puffer need atleast 15 gallons each.
<80 gal> 2 GSPs & a Ceylon!
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
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<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted

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yeah i knew i was gonna get that, ive been working on it
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Post by Raphael »

Well, you may me able to fit all 3 in a 35 gallon but remember, the bigger the better.
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yeah, if you cant get a 55g, a 35g should be fine. but like raph said, the bigger the better.

if you did get a 55g, you could prolly fit a knight gobie, or some bumble bee gobies in with the F8s.
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You have more options with tank mates with a larger tank, aswell as the puffs have more space to move without harassing one another.
<80 gal> 2 GSPs & a Ceylon!
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted

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Post by Pufferswanted »

Ohk i have the pictures but now how do I add them
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Post by Tihsho »

Load them onto another souce (like photobucket) and copy the [img][/img] code and past it onto your post then submit it.
<80 gal> 2 GSPs & a Ceylon!
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted

Image


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Post by Pufferswanted »

i dont have photo bucket or anything like that
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Its free any easy to setup an acct. Just go to: http://photobucket.com
<80 gal> 2 GSPs & a Ceylon!
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted

Image


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sorry, im not the most talented photographer haha

Now that i think about it, about a week ago i was feeding my cichlid tank feeder, rosy reds, and my freind grabbed one and put it in my puffer tank and this puffer ate it, could this be an internal parasite by any chance
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Post by Raphael »

Those are beatiful F8s. Mine are too camera shy for a photo like that. I may get that once in a year.
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Post by Tihsho »

I don't see the spot you are talking of unless its the one that has a white ring around it. IME when I see those its usually after plucking a puff out of a crowded tank at a LFS, usually saw them as bites.
<80 gal> 2 GSPs & a Ceylon!
<75 gal> 3 Figure 8s & 1 Butterlfy Goby
<75 gal> *Empty*
<55 gal> 3 Gymnothorax polyuranodon (FW eel)
<30 long> Pair of Lorteti's & Irrubesco's, 1 DP, Endlers Livebearers, Clown Pleco, Royal Pleco, 2 Bumblebee Cats
<20 long> 4 Flounders
<4 gal> 2 Sparkling Gouramis & 3 ottos heavily planted

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