hi i bought a spotted green puffer from my lfs and now that i have relized i know nothing about it i need help he ws doing fine the first couple of days that i had him and now he is falling head first into the gravel and seems that he does not have enough strength to swim at all
my ph is 8.0 my hardness is unknown but is quite hard my tank is fully cycled with no ammonia and no nitrites and 3 nitrate i do weekly water changes of at least 10% and feed once a day i have added some doc wells aquarium salt to the water and have medicated with an all purpose remedy and ick please help
heeeeeeeellllllllpppppp puffer dying off
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: heeeeeeeellllllllpppppp puffer dying off
That's how many of us got started with puffers.jdluvsjane wrote:i bought a spotted green puffer from my lfs and now that i have relized i know nothing about it i need help
Please answer all of the questions here so the folks on the forum can better diagnose what might be the problem.
Also, how long has he been acting this way? What meds did you use, how much and how big is your tank? Puffers are extremely sensitive to many common meds.
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my tank is a ten gallon i use wardleys all purpose med he does have some do wellfish aquarium salt and gets fed earth worms meal worms snails and shrimp pellets he has been this way going on one week now
my tank is a ten gallon i use wardleys all purpose med he does have some do wellfish aquarium salt and gets fed earth worms meal worms snails and shrimp pellets he has been this way going on one week now
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You should absolutely never medicate any fish for a condition you haven't diagnosed them with. Puffers especially, are very sensitive to meds--some are even deadly to them (copper, for instance). Also, using meds unnecessarily, can lower the immune system & cause resistance to the meds when they may actually be necessary.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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i medicated at half dose
is aquarium salt or uniodized table salt ok to use instead of marine salt
as an update he is now acting as if he has swim bladder disorder but he seems he is breathing fine but is just not able to swim or hold himself up for very long
when i first started this trade several years ago i bought my first gsp and he did this for about an hour and just died but any help that is offered is greatly appreciated
is aquarium salt or uniodized table salt ok to use instead of marine salt
as an update he is now acting as if he has swim bladder disorder but he seems he is breathing fine but is just not able to swim or hold himself up for very long
when i first started this trade several years ago i bought my first gsp and he did this for about an hour and just died but any help that is offered is greatly appreciated
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Puffers don't have swimbladders.
Would you take 1/2 the dosage of the meds you had around the house just in case you might get sick?
You must use marine salt. If you aren't prepared to care for this fish properly, maybe you should return it until you have done more research & saved up for the necesssary items this special fish needs to thrive.
Would you take 1/2 the dosage of the meds you had around the house just in case you might get sick?
You must use marine salt. If you aren't prepared to care for this fish properly, maybe you should return it until you have done more research & saved up for the necesssary items this special fish needs to thrive.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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the puffer is doing better he is able to keep upright and swim and is beggining to be more perky i will watch him for a few days and then return him to my local fish store because i am not prepared for this fish as of yet but will try again in a few months after some more research and cycling his brackish tank
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