Dogface Puffer with Red stuff coming out of gums area

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Dogface Puffer with Red stuff coming out of gums area

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Hello all, This is my first post. Just found the forum and in need of some assistance. I have taken my water to the fish store and they tested my water, it was perfect all the way across the board.

I have had puffers for quite some time now. I have had this one that needs help for the last 9-10 years.

I am well experienced in grinding his teeth down using clove oil for anesthesia. I have had to do it 2 or 3 times now, and have had zero issues.

This time is different tho. Usually you can tell when they need their teeth ground down because it will slowly start cut the gums and create a little clear ball of stuff around the mouth. so thats quick.


But this time the stuff is red. seems like he isn't really using his teeth too much. it seems like he's starting to struggle to breathe, not too sure if its just cause his mouth is staying open. and his entire mouth region area from the outside you can tell is severely swollen.

So i knocked him out the other day to check out back portion of his teeth, to see if its slicing him anywhere in his mouth. it wasn't.

while under, we happened to pull his lips back a bit, and noticed all of his gumline was just red, and looked like it was raw and slightly infected. it just didn't look good.

He is now in the tank, recouping, but it doesn't seem like his breathing is getting any better, ....

Theres stuff called E.M Erythromycin packs that treats bacterial fish diseases that I just dosed the tank.

does anyone have any experience with what could be going on here? my guy needs help and i don't think hell make it much longer like this.

Thank you all in advance,

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Ouch! Send an email to: info@americanaquariumproducts.com. They have been a great help!
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Re: Dogface Puffer with Red stuff coming out of gums area

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Anyone else seen anything like this
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Re: Dogface Puffer with Red stuff coming out of gums area

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I have directed you to the disease experts. It is possible it got cut on a shell & is now infected.
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