Thought about a GSP.....F8's will be the choice

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What kind of filter are you running on your 30 gallon tank? I run ACs with two sponge filters each, and I've had good luck pulling one of the sponges and putting that in the new tank's filter along with a bag of gravel in a mesh net also in the filter. Then I add my fish, but I tend to stock very lightly.

This may be heresy, but it's worked for me for years.

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That is an option jayhawk. I've done it myself.

Ideally, though, you'd do just that, except use ammonia for a while before adding fish.
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Why the ammonia?

When I've used a mature filter pad and some gravel I've never had a nitrite or ammonia spike. I also usually add plants from an existing tank as well...so there's likely more bacteria coming over on them, too.

I see it as being similar to adding BS and the fish immediately.
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I guess it depends on the ammount of bacteria you bring over and the ammount of bioload you initially introduce.

I'd still use the ammonia to stress test it anyway. But I'm probably overly cautious.
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Caution is rarely a bad thing! I do stock lightly, and I probably should have emphasized that. My most heavily stocked tank is my 29 gallon with (if you pardon the excursion into inches of fish land for a moment) would max out at 12" or 13" total length of non-heavy bodied fish.

However, if I was starting the tank with a used filter pad and accessories, I'd only put in about half that amount and only slowly increase the inhabitants.

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Post by lisalisa »

I too, have had great luck moving media over and not experiencing a cycle. Phaedrus is right though, you have to move over enough bacteria to handle the load you are adding. Since you stock so lightly Eric, I'd bet it works perfectly.
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Jayhawk... I'm running a penguin 170 on the African Chiclid 30g tank
My father used to eat Porcupine Puffers.
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I'm not sure how much surface area for bacteria the penguine cartridge would have...best to play it safe and go with BS or ammonia.

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Would the biowheel on the penguin 170 fit onto the penguin 100 for your new tank?
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Nop, two different sizes
My father used to eat Porcupine Puffers.
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How bout the cartridges? would they be able to switch?

If not, you could start running your penguin100 on your cichlid tank for a week and then move it over to the new tank and add fish.
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Phaedrus - that's a good idea about running dual filters.

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That is a possibility
My father used to eat Porcupine Puffers.
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