I got home last night from being out
Of town for 2 days and my valentini is dark in color and laying on the sand. He is breathing very rapidly and is very distressed. All of the other fish in the tank are behaving normally. There are no lesions on him, he isn't red, no visual parasites. Ammonia 0 trites 0 trates 80+. I have no idea how they got that high. I am mixing up water for a water change right now but it will take a few hours as I have a slow RO unit. Does anyone have any ideas as to what
I can do in the meantime? I really don't think he is gonna make it but I would like to try. Thanks everyone
Valentini rapid breathing laying on sand
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Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Valentini rapid breathing laying on sand
Poor guy... Make sure & move ALL your decor around, while doing that WC, looking for excess debris. ALWAY have emergency water made & ready for a WC! I always kept 15g of fresh RODI & 33g of mixed SW on hand.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
Re: Valentini rapid breathing laying on sand
I had my Rubbermaid trash can full of new saltwater but the landscaping people came yesterday and there was grass and dirt all in it, and they sprayed for bugs last week so I just don't trust it. I cleaned it out and am making new water which is almost done. There is no way he is going to survive this though. His entire body is completely
Swollen. It's not red, it looks like he is filled with water( edema like), it's very weird. None of the other fish are at all affected by this. I think he is septic, but I have no idea how he got to be that way.
Swollen. It's not red, it looks like he is filled with water( edema like), it's very weird. None of the other fish are at all affected by this. I think he is septic, but I have no idea how he got to be that way.
Re: Valentini rapid breathing laying on sand
I removed him from the tank and into a bucket, the qt is currently
Occupied and don't want to possibly infect them. He is upside down now and appears to have some sort of bruising on his abdomen? It is a dark grayish color. He seems to be getting larger by the
Minute. I added a tablespoon or aquarium sal( to try and reduce swelling) and maybe I should decrease the salinity? Any thoughts on this?
Occupied and don't want to possibly infect them. He is upside down now and appears to have some sort of bruising on his abdomen? It is a dark grayish color. He seems to be getting larger by the
Minute. I added a tablespoon or aquarium sal( to try and reduce swelling) and maybe I should decrease the salinity? Any thoughts on this?
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Re: Valentini rapid breathing laying on sand
Epsom salt, 1 tbsp/5g, is for swelling reduction & constipation.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: Valentini rapid breathing laying on sand
Yeah that's what I was trying. It's having no effect. He is so swollen he can't even move anymore. If I had some clove oil I would put him out of his misery. Can anyone come up with an explanation for this?
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Re: Valentini rapid breathing laying on sand
My only guess is he became toxic from the nitrate being so high & stressing his immune system. You can get clove oil at any drug store in the toothpaste aisle.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"