so today I got in 3 f8's for my new tank, I ordered 2 but they sent me 3(long story). When they came in today, all 3 of them have various parts of fins missing/nipped off and 1 of them has a grey spot under his mouth, on neck/chin area. Otherwise all their bellies are white. The one with the grey spot seems to be hiding a little more than the rest of them, but still very active. I drip acclimated them over the course of an hr, which was probably a bit excessive considering the SG in the tank is only 1.001 but I wanted to be safe. They all happily ate thawed bloodworms about an hr after I put them in the tank.
background on tank: got the tank a few weeks ago and put 3 platys in there to cycle the tank through. Added API quick start to the tank at the beginning and over the course of 2 weeks water had seemed to cycle through. I do not have the exact measurements written down but I did a 50% change a week and a half ago and added some quick start again. After that change the amm and nitrite spiked a little but came back down to 0 after a few days and all values stayed within normal limits. Last night I checked the water and I don't know what happened but amm- 0.25, nitrite- 0, nitrate -80-160( in between colors on my test). after that I started looking really close at the fish and tank and saw what I am assuming to be worms(pretty much the only thing it could be) floating around. Based on recommendations I immediately took the platys out( which I was going to do today anyways) and did a 100% WC. Went to LFS last night( well 3 LFS) and all of them were out of Tetra safestart, so I got stability instead and Prime. Added prime and stability last night, checked water this AM and amm and nitrite - 0.5 nitrate-0. Went back to LFS and begged employee to look for safestart in the back and they found some!! so I also added that as soon as I got home.
water as of now- amm-0.25, nitrite- 0, nitrate- 20, pH- 8.1, SG- 1.001, temp- 80
is this something I should be worried about( the grey spot)? also, I have some melafix that I can put in the tank for the fins but it recommends taking out the carbon which I really hesistate to do because of the "emergency cycle" that I just did. any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!!
grey spot under mouth on f8
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: grey spot under mouth on f8
I'm locking this, as it's get confusing with it being pretty much a repeat post of your other threads. Let's try to keep this all in 1 thread.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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