Puffer Eye Hemorrhage?

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Puffer Eye Hemorrhage?

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I will fill out the list later today but I just wanted to start off with this:

The main tank is a 55 gallon SW Aquarium SG 1.020 with live rock, macro algae, and a skimmer that has been stable and running for 2 years. Recently done a 50 percent water change. I will have to retest my main tank and the QT tank later on.

My oldest GSP had been sitting on the bottom a lot for the past couple days and I dismissed it as sulking or being lazy but as he started to swim around today I noticed his eyes seem "muted" as they don't have the blue/green sparkles and I noticed his left eye has what would be best described as an eye hemorrhage as it has a bloody red ring on the iris. He seems less responsive when I put my hand up to the glass and then I grew concerned as he bumped into pieces of live rock and would not eat. I set up a 10 gallon QT Tank tonight and he is in there. I had no issues getting him transferred as he swam right into my hand and I pushed him into a bowl. His skin colors are normal green/white but his green coloration is somewhat muted. He is in good shape and is not fat or malnourished. He is currently glass surfing in the 10 gallon QT tank filled with water and pieces of macro algae and LR from the main tank.

Picture I just took of him last week before the sudden change, note that is the exact same eye that is now "injured":
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Without a closer inspection if you saw him in the QT tank you would not suspect there was anything wrong with him.

I have been scouring thru the forums trying to figure out what it is. From what I found it has been inconclusive as to what it may be or the cause but the final result is not very encouraging. :(

Their eyes in both posts look EXACTLY like what I am seeing with mine.
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Another example I looked up while googling eye hemorrhages that resemble what I am seeing:
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/subconju ... e12_em.htm
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It is possible he scraped it on the lR. Try Melafix & also Epsom salt, to relieve any pressure inside.
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Readings from the main tank came back as such:

Ph 8.2
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 10
Salinity 1.020

I checked back up on him this afternoon and he is swimming around and glass surfing a lot still. Both eyes are glazed, his green coloration is very pale, and his belly has turned dark as well. :(
Added some Epsom salt and Melafix just a little while ago. He is in pretty sorry shape. Hard to believe this is the same fish in the photo above. (also my profile pic)
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Oh dear. I do hope you get this sorted, looks like a totally different fish
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Just done another water change to the QT tank and added another dose of Melafix and Epsom Salt. His colors are still a bit muted but I can see the sparkling effect return to his eyes and he also moved away from the glass when I got close so his vision has improved a bit. He is still not eating though.
Hopefully this will work itself out.
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Update: He is still with us in the 10 gallon QT tank. He is somewhat acting normal and I can see eye movement however I can tell he hates it in the QT tank as he is very skittish when anyone gets near and he is curling up in a corner. Only concern is he apparently on a hardcore hunger strike as he has not eaten in a week now after trying several different foods. I used live worms, snails, shrimp, squid, clam meat, and even peas. I even garlic soaked the non live food. :(

I am debating on whether I should re-introduce him to the main tank again since he never seemed to have any contagious fungus or disease and see if his mood changes.
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I think you should. Can you continue treating in there?
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Thanks, yeah I doubt it would hurt anything since it is a FOWLR tank.
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Aww poor guy. Glad he's doing better. Wonder if he got himself wedged in somewhere and stuck, and got his eye scraped/bruised while trying to get out. You know how they love to explore every little crack..
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