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F8 In Full Marine?

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Can it be done?
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Re: F8 In Full Marine?

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No, they are best kept at low-end BW, SG 1.003-1.005.
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Does that apply when they're fully grown?
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Ok, is it 15 gal. minimum? Because I hear many different things... :lol:
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You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...

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Trust the stuff on this forum more than everywhere else. We won't steer you wrong ;)
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Re: F8 In Full Marine?

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Our Mentor, RTR, did a decade-long study on F8s.
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DANG!!! I could imagine though, brackish fish being one of the most misunderstood fish there are, AHA!
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JRC3 wrote:
GSPufferGSP wrote:Ok, is it 15 gal. minimum?
In the US a 6'x8' jail cell is the average for a human...But I wouldn't want to live in one. Minimum is exactly what it is...Minimum. :wink:

I know they don't quite equally compare, but a bigger water column isn't only good for swimming and entertainment, but also better to keep water params in check. :thumb:
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Re: F8 In Full Marine?

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Alright, I got you. :P
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GSPufferGSP wrote:Can it be done?
Ofcourse it can be done, whether or not this is animal cruelty however, that I cannot answer :?. I have seen F8s in reef aquaria, and they show no visual signs of discomfort that I can see. It is near impossible to find accounts of people that keep them long term though. I have only found one account that said he kept one for 12 year.

I am wondering if RTR has some more insight into what would happen to F8s in marine water given his research, for the benefit of this thread and out of personal curiosity. As a simple No and it's not optimal are personally not good enough answers :) as this is something that is an often returning question especially on reef fora.
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Re: F8 In Full Marine?

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Tim wrote:
GSPufferGSP wrote:Can it be done?
Ofcourse it can be done, whether or not this is animal cruelty however, that I cannot answer :?. I have seen F8s in reef aquaria, and they show no visual signs of discomfort that I can see. It is near impossible to find accounts of people that keep them long term though. I have only found one account that said he kept one for 12 year.

I am wondering if RTR has some more insight into what would happen to F8s in marine water given his research, for the benefit of this thread and out of personal curiosity. As a simple No and it's not optimal are personally not good enough answers :) as this is something that is an often returning question especially on reef fora.
Could you provide a link about this particular figure 8? I want to see. I've seen 1-2 of them in a reef in youtube videos, but never thought they wouldn't live any close to 10 years in marine water.
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Terrance wrote:
Tim wrote:
GSPufferGSP wrote:Can it be done?
Ofcourse it can be done, whether or not this is animal cruelty however, that I cannot answer :?. I have seen F8s in reef aquaria, and they show no visual signs of discomfort that I can see. It is near impossible to find accounts of people that keep them long term though. I have only found one account that said he kept one for 12 year.

I am wondering if RTR has some more insight into what would happen to F8s in marine water given his research, for the benefit of this thread and out of personal curiosity. As a simple No and it's not optimal are personally not good enough answers :) as this is something that is an often returning question especially on reef fora.
Could you provide a link about this particular figure 8? I want to see. I've seen 1-2 of them in a reef in youtube videos, but never thought they wouldn't live any close to 10 years in marine water.
It was quite a while ago, but I'll try to find it again. It's still the internet though, so no idea how much truth is in it. :lol:
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Re: F8 In Full Marine?

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It's almost the same as asking if you can survive in the atmosphere of Mars. You may be able to breathe in it somewhat, but one cannot say how long you can survive doing so.
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