-ash
f8- unknown, could be internal parasite??
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One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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messy_da_legend
- Figure 8 Puffer
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yeah like the pigmy potbelly pigs instead of a nice rounded blimp look. i dont know if you checked BW forum there but i havent been able to get my hands on some of that stuff yet, still working on it.
little update:
what i thought were dull colours were only signs of stress. they both get stressed when someone looks in the front of the tank, almost instantly the colours fade and they hide. the only thing i can guess is they didnt like me taking pictures because when i come to the side of the tank both make curioous faces at me.
so a great deal of colour improvment.
they both still look thin. im feeding a little more frequently because if the IP's. still havent seen them poop yet. not vacuuming anythingn up. my nitrates are fantastic. typically less than 10ppm because im changing it out so often.
they sure love shrimp. which is good cause i think shrimp is nasty
im lowering the temp in the tank from the ich treatment. we are down to 82deg now. think i might leave it at that. neither are flashing anymore so that could have been a temp issue. i still believe they have IP's tho, they are very thin and i have never seen poop in the tank.
ive decided to give both of them up. im going to offer them on WWM for shipping cost (if someone wants to tell me how to ship these guys) but not until after i have dewormed them and kept them around to make sure they dont react badly. so at the earliest, the end of May?? if anyone is interested, give me a shout!!
again, thanks a bunch for all of the advice!!
-ash
little update:
what i thought were dull colours were only signs of stress. they both get stressed when someone looks in the front of the tank, almost instantly the colours fade and they hide. the only thing i can guess is they didnt like me taking pictures because when i come to the side of the tank both make curioous faces at me.
so a great deal of colour improvment.
they both still look thin. im feeding a little more frequently because if the IP's. still havent seen them poop yet. not vacuuming anythingn up. my nitrates are fantastic. typically less than 10ppm because im changing it out so often.
they sure love shrimp. which is good cause i think shrimp is nasty
im lowering the temp in the tank from the ich treatment. we are down to 82deg now. think i might leave it at that. neither are flashing anymore so that could have been a temp issue. i still believe they have IP's tho, they are very thin and i have never seen poop in the tank.
ive decided to give both of them up. im going to offer them on WWM for shipping cost (if someone wants to tell me how to ship these guys) but not until after i have dewormed them and kept them around to make sure they dont react badly. so at the earliest, the end of May?? if anyone is interested, give me a shout!!
again, thanks a bunch for all of the advice!!
-ash
http://lambriarvetsupply.com/i_016013-1 ... Powder.php
will this work??
also, will i have to lower the pH if i feed it to them??
thanks!!!
-ash
will this work??
also, will i have to lower the pH if i feed it to them??
thanks!!!
-ash