Sick figure eight puffer, please help!!!

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Re: Sick figure eight puffer, please help!!!

Post by FADE2BLACK_1973 »

Man, I hate when these kinds of things happen. But it is part of fishkeeping. I would like to say, one thing at a time. Because when you start dumping abunch of meds over in the tank, it can cause things to get worse rather then better. From the pics, it looked like a injury from a fight. Usually, most fish with fighting injuries comes out ok after a good dose of a good med for bacterial and fungus disease's. Kinda like what you would do if you get a cut or scape. You put some sort of anti-bacteral solution on it before it gets infected. The anti-bacterial meds does the same for fish. The injury should not had killed him that fast, just sayin.

Btw, just keep an eye out for the other 2 F8's. Dont think it is any kind of disease in the tank that would attack them, just a bully.
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Post by Donna_G »

Thanks everyone, this is the part of fish keeping that really sucks :( I just can't get over how quick it all happened!!!
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It reminds me of my first DP to die. That fungus literally manifested itself and killed her overnight. 8 hours. Gone. I was shocked.

I'm sure your other F8s will be just fine, though!
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Post by FADE2BLACK_1973 »

Donna_G wrote:Thanks everyone, this is the part of fish keeping that really sucks :( I just can't get over how quick it all happened!!!


Yeah this is the part that sucks :( . But Im sure the other 2 will be fine. And that lil F8 might had something else wrong with him in the 1st place. So dont be so hard on yourself. We all go through this time to time.
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Hey Donna how are the other two doing?
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puffykid wrote:Hey Donna how are the other two doing?
The other 2 seem fine at the moment so fingers crossed.
My husband made me ring the fish shop on the Monday morning and they offered me a replacement, I was thinking of sticking with the 2 remaining but after discussing it with hubby we went to collect him. So I am back up to 3, he seems to have settled in well and have not noticed the other 2 causing him any probs so hopefully everything will be fine, I have a spare 15g ready just in case :D
I'm surprised at how much my confidence has been knocked by this, I know things happens but I'd always been one of the lucky few who had never really had to deal with anything major before. Am just glad I had this forum to turn to as when he started to go downhill, there were clear headed people to remind me of the steps I should have been taking.
Again Thank you
Here's a quick video of the new guy
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That was nice of the store, I am sure you will have better luck with this one.I originally wanted to get f8's but had a hard time finding anyone to get them in, so I ended up with 1 spoiled gsp who's a weenie.
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When I was looking for f8's that's all I saw was gsp, my husband was telling me to get 3 of them instead!!! I told him that if he wanted to spend a huge amount of money on a big enough marine set up then I was willing to spend the time caring for them. He soon changed his mind lmao :D
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Oh, look at him! What a great eater!

When I saw that this topic was unread again, my heart sunk. I thought that it was another one of your F8s in trouble! I'm glad to find that it's just a cute video of your new guy!
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Post by FADE2BLACK_1973 »

Cute lil guy :D . Im glad everything is well with all 3.
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Post by Nuclear_Glitter »

Are you continuing the treatment?
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Just an update to say everyone is still doing great and am waiting for the Kusuri plus wormer to arrive, am not 100% sure they have ip's but better safe than sorry. I forgot to ask how long I should be doing the salt treatment for?
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that around the mouth seems fungal. Clean water, a good source of food and it might pull through without meds.
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J-P wrote:that around the mouth seems fungal. Clean water, a good source of food and it might pull through without meds.
Thanks J-P but that puffer died the same evening I first posted, whatever it was it took him quick. The shop kindly gave me a replacement the following day, and I was advised on here to treat the tank with salt and I was wondering how long to continue this treatment?
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I'd treat for two weeks from the day you got your new puffer, minimum. Of course, that's if no other signs come up.
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