water params:
amonia o
no2 0
no3 30
sg 1.008
tankmates: none
tanksize: 30 g
50% weekly wc
he eats bloodworms and babyshrimp (i tried to feed him snails but he wouldnt eat them)
i addedmy gsp 2 weeks ago
its been set up and cycled for about a year with diferent fish
Ok i got my puffer and he was a bit skiny, i was afraaid that he wasnt eating in the store so i asked the shopkeeper to feed hem, she poord in some blood worms and he ate them all up and got fat. when he was in my tank his belly turnd gray aroung the edges wich i assumed was from the moving stress, it never went away last night i relized he had ip's i ran to walmart and got some jungle fiz tabs and soakedsome babyshrimp in them overnight i just put them in his tank and he refuses to eat them or his normal food without the medicin, hes alot worse now he swims slugishly around then darts whem he hits somthing but most of the time he's on the botom or in the plants. should i treat the water? the fizz tabs say there for freshwater is that the problem? what should i do??????
gsp ip disaster
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: gsp ip disaster
Add crushed garlic to the food whilst soaking, also try earthworms
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly
Re: gsp ip disaster
What's the temperature?
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Re: gsp ip disaster
Get the nitrate down <20.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Get the nitrate down <20.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
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Re: gsp ip disaster
ill try the garlic and worms but hes geting alot worse im afraid hes not going to make it 
also my tap is 20 no3 how do i get it below that?
also my tap is 20 no3 how do i get it below that?Re: gsp ip disaster
its 80 degres farinhight because i just treated for ickCoCoPuffs wrote:What's the temperature?
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Re: gsp ip disaster
Bring the temp down a little gradually and add an extra airsone or more surface agitation
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Re: gsp ip disaster
the best thing you can do right now to try and get him to eat was mentioned. try the garlic soaking in with the food, or an earthworm injected with the fizz tab solution. or maybe try a combo of both so that he doesnt associate the worm with tasting bad. if he seems to be blind or having trouble seeing i think thats a sign of nitrate poisoning. since you dont have an extremely big tank, i would call around to pet shops and see if they sell "ro/di water" to do some changes with that. thats really high coming out of the tap. also make sure you shake the bottles for nitrate, that is the biggest pain of a test to do out of the main liquids. i always tested it two or three times each time to make sure i shook them enough
Re: gsp ip disaster
its not just the medicated food he's not eating its all food!he stoped swiming all together now and is lying at the bottom . the no3 mesurment is probubly not the most acurate i use test strips, i know i need liquid tsting but right now i dont have the money shoud i try just soaking in garlic so i can get him to eat? again should i add the meds to the tank? the box sais its for fw is that a problem for bw?
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Re: gsp ip disaster
yes i would add the meds to the tank, that way its not just the food that smells or tastes funny. and yes i would soak in garlic to entice him to eat. hopefully he will take it! im not sure on the SG thing and the fizz tabs, i would assume they would be ok since your at such a low SG still. fresh water liquid tests are used until you hit around 1.010 i think
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Re: gsp ip disaster
Plenty of garlic soaking, fresh crushed garlic if you have it. Stick with their favourite food for now
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly
Re: gsp ip disaster
ok, i will now get some bloodworms half soaked plain in garliic other half in meds anymore input on wether i should treat te tank?
Re: gsp ip disaster
he canot swim, nevermind eat he is curently floating at the top of the tank going thu perioids of rapid breath to perioids of slow breath, he doesnt even look when i put in his favorite food heavily soaked in garlic without the meds. It doesnt look like hell survive the night but im going to treat the tank now juust to give it a last try. any other advice?Re: gsp ip disaster
Idk.....if a water change would help.....sounds dire.