Lethargic SAP with injured/clamped fins
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Lethargic SAP with injured/clamped fins
Oh dear
sorry to hear that ...
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Re: Lethargic SAP with injured/clamped fins
Aww that sucks. Sorry he didn't pull though.
It's amazing how easy maintenance is. If done regularly and thoroughly
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Re: Lethargic SAP with injured/clamped fins
me too 
I do blame myself a little bit. I saw the nipped fin and just figured it would go away like so many other injuries of that nature do, but I guess with the shipping and the new home, the stress got the upper hand and I didn't react soon enough.
I do blame myself a little bit. I saw the nipped fin and just figured it would go away like so many other injuries of that nature do, but I guess with the shipping and the new home, the stress got the upper hand and I didn't react soon enough.
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Re: Lethargic SAP with injured/clamped fins
Sorry he didn't make it... 
I'd not waste the Pimafix. Tear down the tank, rinse well with Oxyclean & start over with fishless cycle.
I'd not waste the Pimafix. Tear down the tank, rinse well with Oxyclean & start over with fishless cycle.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Lethargic SAP with injured/clamped fins
huh? tank was fishless cycled 6 months ago.Pufferpunk wrote:Sorry he didn't make it...
I'd not waste the Pimafix. Tear down the tank, rinse well with Oxyclean & start over with fishless cycle.
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300 gallon above ground pond • 3500 gallon koi pond • 75 gallon goldfish pond
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Re: Lethargic SAP with injured/clamped fins
I'm sorry, I just got back from surgery & didn't read the entire thread.
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
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Re: Lethargic SAP with injured/clamped fins
no problem. there's lots of threads! hope your surgery was a success! 
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300 gallon above ground pond • 3500 gallon koi pond • 75 gallon goldfish pond
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Re: Lethargic SAP with injured/clamped fins
Yep, on the mend, thanks! 
You are getting sleepy... you only hear the sound of my voice... you must do water changes... water changes... water changes... water changes...
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"
"The solution to pollution is dilution!"