He seems to be settling in & is cruising around the tank, instead of resting on the substrate. He seems to be holding his mouth open constantly though. Stress thing, or is something wrong with him? His teeth do not appear to be overgrown.
I will try to get pictures, but if this is a standard puffer thing, maybe someone can help without pics...?
Another New Fahaka question
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1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
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Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Another New Fahaka question
Is his breathing laboured? Can you post water params please.
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Re: Another New Fahaka question
Also is it wide open or just a little.
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Re: Another New Fahaka question
Baby awake. Will post parameters & photos when husband gets home. Thx for looking at the thread!
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Re: Another New Fahaka question
No worries
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Re: Another New Fahaka question
OK. Water parameters are good:
ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate < 20ppm
ph 7
Working on picture. It looks like his mouth is frozen open. You can see the tongue pumping to move water through. no other signs of distress. Belly is white. Fins are spread...
ammonia 0
nitrite 0
nitrate < 20ppm
ph 7
Working on picture. It looks like his mouth is frozen open. You can see the tongue pumping to move water through. no other signs of distress. Belly is white. Fins are spread...
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Re: Another New Fahaka question
Parameters look as if they are in check, run through the questions in red at the top, minus the parameters since you just posted those.
Any change in temperature recently?
Any change in temperature recently?
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Re: Another New Fahaka question
Tank is 120 gallons
The new fahaka is the only inhabitant.
The tank was occupied by a group of discus until the wee hours of this morning. massive water change to catch them out, but not all. The tank is cycled (as the params demonstrate). temp is 78 degrees F
The major change is, of course, the fahaka. I'm trying to figure out if I've been sent a fish with some mouth problem, or if this is relatively normal puffer stuff.
Hope this works. If it does, it is the best picture of how his mouth has been "frozen" all day.
here's the tank he's in: is the decor adequate? If not, what types of hiding spaces do they like? Driftwood? Pots?
The new fahaka is the only inhabitant.
The tank was occupied by a group of discus until the wee hours of this morning. massive water change to catch them out, but not all. The tank is cycled (as the params demonstrate). temp is 78 degrees F
The major change is, of course, the fahaka. I'm trying to figure out if I've been sent a fish with some mouth problem, or if this is relatively normal puffer stuff.
Hope this works. If it does, it is the best picture of how his mouth has been "frozen" all day.
here's the tank he's in: is the decor adequate? If not, what types of hiding spaces do they like? Driftwood? Pots?
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Re: Another New Fahaka question
Just wanted to add that I have not attempted to feed him anything. Was worried that with the mouth issue & his newness to the tank, any food would just go uneaten and possibly foul the water.
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Re: Another New Fahaka question
i'd definitely try to feed him , and see what happens ....you can always remove any uneaten food . Whats he been fed uptill now ??
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Re: Another New Fahaka question
Do you know any of his history? It's not normal for them to always hold their mouth open like that.
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Re: Another New Fahaka question
I've never heard of or seen something like that, it's definitely a curious thing.
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Re: Another New Fahaka question
The only things I can think of are:
Maybe his back teeth are somehow causing a problem, or someone allowed his front teeth to get too long and just recently trimmed them.
Maybe his back teeth are somehow causing a problem, or someone allowed his front teeth to get too long and just recently trimmed them.
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Re: Another New Fahaka question
He may be stressed. I would give him some sort of cave to settle under.
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Re: Another New Fahaka question
The mouth is still open today, though not quite as much. Gave him a freeze-dried krill last night, and I don't think he liked it, but he did at least try it - it is in pieces on the substrate. Thawing a shrimp right now, to feed this afternoon. Once I have established that he can and will eat, will hit the grocery store for some harder shelled foods.
I really hope it is just stress. He came from Jeff Rapps at tangledupincichlids.com, who is well known in the cichlid community as a very reputable, online dealer of difficult to find fish. Primarily, Central & South American cichlids, but also oddballs, and "monster fish". I have purchased many fish from him, over the past several years, and to receive a fish with something wrong with it would be way out of the ordinary.
TY for the tank pics. We have lots of pots & driftwood around, so I will add a few hiding spaces when 7 month old baby allows.
I really hope it is just stress. He came from Jeff Rapps at tangledupincichlids.com, who is well known in the cichlid community as a very reputable, online dealer of difficult to find fish. Primarily, Central & South American cichlids, but also oddballs, and "monster fish". I have purchased many fish from him, over the past several years, and to receive a fish with something wrong with it would be way out of the ordinary.
TY for the tank pics. We have lots of pots & driftwood around, so I will add a few hiding spaces when 7 month old baby allows.