Beetroot is in trouble :(
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Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
Read this before posting!!
Since this board has been up, we have found there are several questions that routinely get asked in order to help diagnose problems. If you can have that information to begin with in your post, we'll be able to help right away (if we can!) without having to wait for you to post the info we need.
1) Your water parameters - pH, Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrates and salinity (if appropriate). This is by far the most important information you can provide! Do not answer this with "Fine" "Perfect" "ok", that tells us nothing. We need hard numbers.
2) Tank size and a list of ALL inhabitants. Include algae eaters, plecos, everything. We need to know what you have and how big the tank is.
3) Feeding, water change schedule and a list of all products you are using or have added to the tank (examples: Cycle, Amquel, salt, etc)
4) What changes you've made in the tank in the last week or so. Sometimes its the little things that make all the difference.
5) How long the aquarium has been set up, and how did you cycle it? If you don't know what cycling is read this: Fishless Cycling Article and familiarize yourself with all the information. Yes. All of it.
We want to help, and providing this information will go a LONG way to getting a diagnosis and hopeful cure that much faster.
While you wait for assistance:
One of the easiest and best ways to help your fish feel better is clean water! If you are already on a regular water change schedule (50% weekly is recommended) a good step to making your fish more comfortable while waiting for diagnosis/suggestions is to do a large water change immediately. Feel free to repeat daily or as often as you can, clean water is always a good thing! Use of Amquel or Prime as a dechlor may help with any ammonia or nitrite issues, and is highly recommended.
Note - if you do not normally do large water changes, doing a sudden, large water change could shock your fish by suddenly changing their established water chemistry. Clean water is still your first goal, so in this case, do several smaller (10%) water changes over the next day or two before starting any large ones.
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Re: Beetroot is in trouble :(
looks like its time to get the antibiotics out
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Re: Beetroot is in trouble :(
if parasites are out, you have bacteria, fungal, viral or physical.
Are you using melafix and or pimafix at all?
Are you using melafix and or pimafix at all?
if you follow me, you avoid stepping in the crap that I just did...
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Re: Beetroot is in trouble :(
Dear All,
It is with a sullen heart that I announce to you that Beetroot has passed on to Pufferland.
After a day and a night of struggling with the unknown ailment, Beety succumbed to the disease.
Thank you all for your concern and loads of help.
I will now address some of the queries from you and also offer my prognosis to the cause of death.
Temperature:
The temperature of the tank is room temperature. We live in tropical Singapore and hence did not need a heater to bring up the temp.
Having said that, I did consider adding in the heater to bring it up to 30 deg C. But I refrained from doing so as the ailment had not been adequately diagnosed.
Medical Treatment:
I dosed the tank with Primafix and Melafix in an attempt to cover bases.
As the day progressed the patch seems to flake off indicating that it is fungal in nature.
So the treatment was correct, but Beetroot was in such a weakened state that it was too late to help.
Prognosis:
Beetroot was observed not to have any interest at all in his food when we fed him.
As he swam up to the front of the tank, I noticed severe swelling around his right eye up to his lips and scratch marks around his forehead.
Later in the evening the swelling dissipated but Beetroot remained in a "stunned" state, not willing to eat.
That was the state that he remained in for the rest of the time, stunned.
I suspect that the main injury is severe trauma to the head causing the swelling and the scratches.
Towards the last hours, his face seems to have swollen totally such that its normally protruding eyes were flush with his face.
The fungal infection resulted from the open scratch wounds which may have contributed but not leading to death.
Thank you all once again for your support.
Sincerely yours,
Jason (sPuffalopagus) and Theresa (Creampuff)
It is with a sullen heart that I announce to you that Beetroot has passed on to Pufferland.
After a day and a night of struggling with the unknown ailment, Beety succumbed to the disease.
Thank you all for your concern and loads of help.
I will now address some of the queries from you and also offer my prognosis to the cause of death.
Temperature:
The temperature of the tank is room temperature. We live in tropical Singapore and hence did not need a heater to bring up the temp.
Having said that, I did consider adding in the heater to bring it up to 30 deg C. But I refrained from doing so as the ailment had not been adequately diagnosed.
Medical Treatment:
I dosed the tank with Primafix and Melafix in an attempt to cover bases.
As the day progressed the patch seems to flake off indicating that it is fungal in nature.
So the treatment was correct, but Beetroot was in such a weakened state that it was too late to help.
Prognosis:
Beetroot was observed not to have any interest at all in his food when we fed him.
As he swam up to the front of the tank, I noticed severe swelling around his right eye up to his lips and scratch marks around his forehead.
Later in the evening the swelling dissipated but Beetroot remained in a "stunned" state, not willing to eat.
That was the state that he remained in for the rest of the time, stunned.
I suspect that the main injury is severe trauma to the head causing the swelling and the scratches.
Towards the last hours, his face seems to have swollen totally such that its normally protruding eyes were flush with his face.
The fungal infection resulted from the open scratch wounds which may have contributed but not leading to death.
Thank you all once again for your support.
Sincerely yours,
Jason (sPuffalopagus) and Theresa (Creampuff)
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Re: Beetroot is in trouble :(
that is sad, I am truly sorry for your loss.
if you follow me, you avoid stepping in the crap that I just did...
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Re: Beetroot is in trouble :(
Thanks J-P.
Well, Beetroot's happy photo will be up in the main page of the forum for a couple more days before the end of the year. He was POTY for 2010. Memories whenever we see that photo of his.
Well, Beetroot's happy photo will be up in the main page of the forum for a couple more days before the end of the year. He was POTY for 2010. Memories whenever we see that photo of his.
Ohhh... the Anticipation!!!
Hammie the Baileyi
Sunny the Abei
Nori the Fang
Kyuri and Hamachi the Female Irrubescos
Beetroot the Fahaka
Hammie the Baileyi
Sunny the Abei
Nori the Fang
Kyuri and Hamachi the Female Irrubescos
Beetroot the Fahaka
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Re: Beetroot is in trouble :(
RIP, to the GREAT Beetroot.
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Re: Beetroot is in trouble :(
I'm so sorry to hear that, how awful May he rest in peace.
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Re: Beetroot is in trouble :(
Sorry you lost him
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Re: Beetroot is in trouble :(
I am so sorry for your loss.
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Re: Beetroot is in trouble :(
rest in peace beetroot. such a beautiful puffer.
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